Feel free to use this a megathread for the US/Israeli war on Iran.

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      21 hours ago

      First two months of 2026: The US kidnaps one country’s leader, murders another, and kills hundreds of civilians in two failed regime change attempts.

      Death to the burger empire.

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        The scary part is how they succeed in their objectives. I’m still not over Maduro’s kidnapping and how they pulled it off. It’s freakish.

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          No, they didn’t succeed. Their objectives were regime change, that didn’t happen. You could at the most say that Venezuela is now more cohoperative but they didn’t install a comprador.

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          The scary part is how they succeed in their objectives.

          US government spends more than a trillion dollar on war each year.

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          Kidnapping Maduro didn’t accomplish any of their stated objectives in Venezuela. It looks like the White House didn’t even confer with energy companies about the viability of expanding their oil production?! They flipped their script immediately afterwards and claimed they won. You’d have to be a doomer to believe it.

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          Although, it’s worth noting that this was largely a stunt. The US did not have the ability to actually invade Venezuela or to topple the government.

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            It was indeed a stunt, keep in mind that the US spend trillions to maintain an army capable of invading other countries, it’s just not convenient for them to do so.

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              It’s more than just inconvenience. The US does not have a good track record fighting prolonged conflicts. They can destroy a country and make millions of people suffer, but they rarely achieve long term objectives.

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                I would argue that their long term objectives are usually achieved, USA pretty much control the whole world.

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                  the US absolutely doesn’t control the world, the war in Ukraine and recent attempt at a trade war with China is a great example of just how weak the empire really is. The US failed to subdue Russia and their attempt to cut Russia out of the global economy resulted in a separate economic system forming with increasing amount of trade happening outside western control. Now, global majority is allied with China against the empire, and hence why we see the US desperately lashing out.

                  The US has hit an inflection point where the cost of maintaining the empire outstrips the plunder. All the forever wars have drained critical resources, while financial capitalism moved essential production overseas. Now the US finds that it has little economic leverage, and its material base is eroded.

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                    Failed to subdue Russia

                    Russia’s own corrupt ineptitude did that one mate. Russia should have taken Ukraine in days and its been years. They have not even gotten Zelenskyy.

                    And it was never a direct conflict with the US.

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                    the US absolutely doesn’t control the world

                    We are in a thread about US government killing the leader of a country on the other side of the world without any disturbance. No other country can do something like.

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                    “The dying serpent always bites”. The roman empire went out like this too, overextending itself with a lot of imperialist wars, then devolving into internal strife and instability until it hollowed out and everyone left.

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                  You’d argue and you’d lose that argument. If you think the Empire controls the world then you’re clearly not seeing or you don’t want to see how it’s collapsing. If they would have accomplished their objectives they wouldn’t have a single opposition force in the world, yet there are plenty. Maybe you think the world is white people only? Because they do have control over all of their colonies and they are all white Westerners.

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                    The day US government will be unable to successfully attack a different country every month i would start to argue that they power is collapsing

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          These sorts of attacks is what the US military has been investing in capacity to complete for decades. This is why there has been an investment bleeding edge tech which costs insane amounts of money to develop.

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            No, insane costs are due to how the military industrial complex rules the country and inflates prices because it needs more profits. Costs do not necessarily mean more sophisticated or that have an actual improvement in the battlefield. In fact recent trends show the opposite, the cheaper the tech the better output it produces on the battlefield. It’s low cost vehicles, missiles and drones that are leading the battle, not 20 trillion F-35s.

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          the military fully backed him thats why, not like donald planed it out, they did under his general order. that and kidnaping moduro hasn’t really changed the country much after hes gone.

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      Can they really be a “threat” when they’re actively killing people all over the world?

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        No. Most of what Russia does on the world stage is good, it is one of the biggest supporters of many global south countries and one of the few remaining bulwarks preventing US imperialism from running completely roughshod over the global south. For example right now, see Cuba and how Russia is providing support and oil as the US tries to starve them of energy and starve them to death. You may have been taught Putler=Voldemort, but no, Russia at this point is acting largely as a force for good in the world.

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          When they stop murdering children in Ukraine, which they can do literally any time they want, then I’ll be more inclined to believe you.

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              We live in your head rent free huh.

              And no, our ideas aren’t simply “x is bad”, without violent resistance we’d have slavery, white women would be chained to the kitchen, workers would have never got a 40h work week, etc. We don’t have a consensus on Russia and many will defend it harder because it’s funny to piss off people like you, but Russia is nowhere near as bad as the US, and we wouldn’t have modern Russia if it weren’t for the US as well.

              Look at the numbers of people killed just by western sanctions alone, it’s over half a million a year. The US has removed democratically elected leaders too many times, like Salvador Allende in Chile or even Mosaddegh. They’re starving Cuba RIGHT NOW. But I guess unless mainstream media tells you our lives matter you just don’t care.

              So yeah, slander us all you want, but we’re nothing if not ideologically consistent.

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                  We can play this game forever, my point is that I don’t believe you really care about our lives in the global south, considering you seem to ignore that the vast majority of conflicts involving Russia wouldn’t have manifested without western imperialism. We lose people all the time through sanctions and regime changes and IMF imposed austerity. We don’t celebrate Ukrainian civilians dying, the war that common Ukrainians no longer want to fight won’t end as long as the west refuses a deal.