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I don’t think so
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Beware it’d be quite easy to decensor that qr from the image.
I tried watching some yt in librewolf made me do 5 captchas an i had to switch vpn location so fuck google
I tried using Konqueror once, but Cloudflare websites (like WineHQ) would verification loop me. Niche browsers are discriminated against
I have degoogled but YT is the only thing I’m stuck with. The monopoly is too much to overcome.
Freetube + Invidious
If you’re on mobile, check out the Greyjay app. It’s promoted (sponsored?) by Louise Rossman
Apparently there was some fallout with futo and him
Not sure at all about the details, but yeah he definitely backed them. Not sure if he still does though
I think he just left to go work on fulu, no bad blood as far as i’m concerned. Anyways grayjay is pretty good, and when the new newpipe comes out that might be an even better choice maybe (but who knows when that’ll be?? Tell me).
I just quit watching it a few months ago. No big deal, it’s all crap and mindless shit anyways.
it’s all crap and mindless shit anyways.
If you click on mindless shit, the algorithm serves you mindless shit. I get documentaries. 🤷
you know who else has documentaries?
PBS.
support your local public broadcasting stations, people.
Or turn on adblockers and support the people you watch directly (donate, patreon, merch, etc). It takes like $2/yr to replace the ad revenue that you would’ve generated for them (something like that).
Or use the alt platforms that creators create themselves when possible.
You can’t escape youtube right now (as in there is no real alternative if you stop using it all together), but you can turn on adblockers (ublock), use 3rd party clients and give something directly to creators you watch a lot.
And you can support PBS in addition if you want.
you know who else has documentaries?
PBS.
support your local public broadcasting stations, people.
And do you know which documentaries they don’t have? The ones that are uploaded by their creators only to YouTube.
I watch plenty of Arte and I pay the fee but documentaries about video game speedruns etc. simply aren’t on Arte (or PBS or Nebula). I watch those where they are: YouTube.
Creating an infrastructure that could potentially ingest terrabytes of data per second, and then processing it into multiple resolutions, is a massive ask.
Especially for a new site that might not ever get picked up by users, much less creators.
I think the only people that have a hope in hell of having a success at starting a youtube competitor are the owners of the big porn sites, since they are in a similar, if much smaller than youtube business with regards to infrastructure demands and processing needs. . So they have the institutional knowledge and infrastructural inertia to get started easier than anyone else on the planet. assuming they want to do a SFW video site, which they may not want to do, and it’d probably be burdened forever with right wing outrage due to any tenuous, distant connection to the porn sites (even if its just porn money or porn owners)
Wasn’t there some professor that started uploading actual educational non-porn lectures on pornhub a while back?
I think I know who you are talking about, I recall seeing something about her making more money posting on pornhub than youtube because of greater advertising sharing or something.
Yeah but hosting your self isn’t that big a deal depending on your host. At least until you get into the millions of views.
We’re talking about youtube competition, self hosting isnt ever going to compete with youtube.
is a massive ask.
No, it’s not. It’s a massive request. When you punch out and leave the car lot, be sure to use regular English.
What’s “regular English”? Only words you personally know? https://www.oed.com/dictionary/ask_n1?tab=meaning_and_use
It’s a fairly common phrase. Language can change and have regional differences. This isn’t Quebec defending their weird version of French as the only “correct” way to speak.
That thar dude frum lemmy.ca, Imma laff ifn he done be Quebecois
None of these are about identifying if you’re human, they’re about identifying which human you are.
Not to excuse Google’s practices, but you can select the eye icon to continue training an AI to detect buses and bikes.
Oh, thanks for letting me know. I missed that one, as it isn’t all that clear that’s what it does.
I also use an extension called buster that automatically solves the audio accessible captcha challenge.
Name the offending website please.
Google. It’s their recaptcha service doing that. The QR code validation also gets rejected if you’re using a privacy oriented mobile OS like Graphene.
At the cost of conditioning people into following orders from random qr codes
you mean it was google.com? Or on which website was this recaptcha?
Recaptcha is a service offered by Google. It doesn’t matter on which site the user encountered the QR code verification request - the problem is with Google (the company.)
It does matter, because that Google integration didn’t happen by magic. Whatever the site is, they chose to do things that way.
The only way Google stops things like this is if they get actual pushback, and the only realistic way to achieve that is to make the people using their service reconsider.
and the only realistic way to achieve that is to make the people using their service reconsider.
So what exactly will naming the site achieve? If someone wants to boycott recaptcha (which I’m 100% onboard with, btw) they’ll just not comply with the captcha and leave the site when they encounter it. On the other hand, someone who would not otherwise visit the site cannot reduce traffic to the site by direct action. Telling their friends “don’t use that site, it uses recaptcha” is no more effective than telling them “don’t use any site that requires you to do QR recaptchas.”
Exactly this!
archive.is in this case
are they fucking serious with this shit?
what the hell…
Archive.is is a Russian propaganda bot net. Don’t use it.
ah, that explains it…i half-remembered that something is off about that site, but couldn’t remember what it was…thanks for the heads up!
It looks like a Cloudflare interstitial. I also don’t think sites get to choose which challenge types show up in reCAPTCHA, so this is on Google.
Isn’t the site choosing to use recaptcha?
The site is using Cloudflare for DDoS protection, and unfortunately Cloudflare is probably the most effective tool for this. It also looks like it might be archive.org in the screenshot, and they’ve been dealing with a lot of DDoS attacks lately.
I don’t think Google advertises “we force you to scan a QR code” as a feature of reCAPTCHA either, so it feels a little weird to me to blame the site for using a DDoS protection tool that in turn uses reCAPTCHA for human verification when Google randomly decides to add a new stupid challenge type.
As far as I know, Cloudflare doesn’t use reCaptcha. I think they use a version of hCaptcha running on their own workers.
Man i will nope out of this website so quick.
I’ll get hate for referencing a solution that involves AI, but this looks promising: https://github.com/Captcha-Sonic/CaptchaSonic-Extension
Lmao so the captchas don’t even do anything anyway. Except harass us.
that’s been true for years now:
captchas have been a mild inconvenience for bots for like 10 years.
they are, like so many things, pure security theater…not actual security.
They were introduced as a way to crowdsource OCR
Google would give two words, one they knew and one they didn’t
4chan screwed with them back in the day by all giving the same wrong answer on the second word so their OCR would scan wrong
This is a good use of AI.
Eye for an eye
Doesn’t clicking on the headphones switch to an audio test like with regular captcha? That’s what I do and it works first time instead of getting an endless number of images when I use VPN. The words you enter don’t even have to be 100% correct.
Recaptcha users will experience some visitor losses.
I dont understand how and why is the phone involved in this check. I assume its a link to a website that authenticates you (probably google), but why not open it in the browser its alread at? Like what recaptcha was already doing for the past decade?
Im so confused
A few years ago I was given a technical deep dive into Akamai’s bot detection systems. One area they were quite focused on were bots impersonating mobile devices, and in particular mobile apps. It’s commonplace for attackers to try to mimic the behavior of mobile apps because it often provides more direct access to the data they’re looking for than trying to scrape websites.
To counter this threat Akamai developed a library for their customers to incorporate into their apps. This library collects a bunch of haptic data from the mobile device, such as the tilt sensors, accelerometers, finger taps/swipes on the screen, and other available data. It then encrypts it and sends it along to Akamai along with the data the app sends. Akamai then analyzes that haptic data and uses it as part of their bot detection analysis.
It is VERY difficult for a computer to mimic the truly random way a mobile device moves in space, or the way your fingers tap/swipe on a screen. If you were asked to draw a straight line from the upper left corner to the bottom right corner of your smartphone, not only would it not be perfectly straight but it would be quite fluid in its randomness. Writing a computer program to simulate that would be very tough. You’re far more likely to get lots of short straight lines with jagged angles than something that looks like a human drew it. And computer algorithms can quickly analyze this sort of data and return a confidence score indicating if it appears to have been created artificially or not.
So my guess is that when that QR code is scanned it will launch a Google app that will collect some similar haptic data and send it off to Google along with a unique id for that captcha. Google will then quickly analyze that haptic data to determine if you’re a bot or not.
Ohh, I’ve never thought about phone authentication being superior due the amount of sensors it has. Thanks for explaining, it makes a lot of sense (and I hate it)
I think they can use remote attestation on the mobile device to prove that it’s a physical device. They do that through Google Play Services or whatever the equivalent is on iOS. So, for instance, scanning the QR code on a custom ROM like lineage or GrapheneOS doesn’t work.
They want to force interaction with your phone so they can identify who you are.
Not justifying this by any means but you can just click on the eye icon at the bottom to get the regular captcha.
Vague option is vague.
I see phishing opportunity here. Thanks Google
Scan to get hacked
Google’s already on their phone. Consumers gladly pay for the priviledge of malware.
… what?
