Fork time? Maybe all the anti-systemd zealots were right all along…
Edit: To address whether it is likely that this change will affect users: Gnome is planning a stronger dependence on userdb, the part of systemd where this change is being implemented. https://blogs.gnome.org/adrianvovk/2025/06/10/gnome-systemd-dependencies/
I never cared about the systemd debacle, now I do. I don’t want that shit on my PC.
Why would anyone on Linux, having free choice of all Linux OSes, choose one that actively compromises your privacy?
This is why Linux should never be a corporate, paid-for ecosystem. The nerds that keep all this shit running for free will not be interested in maintaining spyware OS.
i think it’s really wholesome that a lot of 126 year old people use linux
Just write a shell script that changes the birthday every few minutes lol
They want to store the actual birthdays (not just a boolean stating it complies with an age bracket). And using claude to review PRs… fucking systemd
This is some sick early April Fools thing right…? RIGHT?!?
Something feels fishy… The user who made this pull request has more than doubled his contributions to various repositories since January (from 20–400 to more than 1100), and this is his first pull request in the systemd repo.
They bought a second computer so they can ask Claude for twice as much code.
Can someone explain how they do this verification?
Not at all for now. Its just about storing the birth date in a way that the system can use it.
The Californian law doesn’t require being temper proof (yet)
Great that California allows us to be angry about it.
Colorado too and some other states have similar plans.
The EU plans go in a different and worse direction.
So what? I am (g)root.
You mean they’re complying with the meta age verification at OS level lobbying?
https://github.com/upper-up/meta-lobbying-and-other-findings
Ofcourse the project run by a microslop employee wants to force this on almost every distro as soon as possible.
same thing with manifest v3, just some mega corp goon doing the work no one’s asked for
Poettering is not with Microsoft anymore, though
- get top recent commiters with https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pulse
- click on 1st link https://github.com/bluca and see https://github.com/microsoft in profile
Just 2 steps.
Yes Poettering isn’t at Microsoft but seems the person driving the project at the moment is.
This is the first time I’ve cared about the whole systemd debate, so that’s something I guess. Not interested in anything that kowtows to this age verification nonsense
I was ambivalent about systemd up until now. If this gets merged I’m moving to a non-systemd distro. I do not live in California or even the USA. I do not want age verification garbage in my OS.
Iv not given a shit one way or another as well. But as a Californian I refuse to have this shit on my PC damn be what the law says.
Consider PCLinuxOS: they’re an RPM-based mandriva (mandrake/conectiva) derivative with really great and wide compatibility in stacks without the ‘modules’ shitfest RH started after no one remembered what ‘alternatives’ was for.
They don’t use systemd, but their installation is a bit shite as it’s a “live CD” installer – they pruned out the proper templatey install that mandriva has. But so far that’s the biggest issue. If they can get off networkManager we’ll be even better off, though.
Damn that’s crazy. It’d be a shame if someone not beholden to California law just forked the code
Why do they need the age after all. What are authorities going to do with it?
Control what content you see and add some extra detail to fingerprint you.
If they can get this simple age verification done from everyone, it’s not going to be hard to add “new requirements” in the future
Either this or block access to people living in hostile places. Currently it is a parental control with no verification of the thruth. You can put 01/01/01 there, if you want. If it turns into identity verification we will see what we can do.
They (politicians) are obsessed with control.
To my understanding, it’s also Meta that is lobbying for this. Basically pushing the responsibility elsewhere to the operating system vendors
But how would they know I have been truthful about my age? I mean I am never putting my real age when registering on websites.
I guess they want this law to fall back on in case an underage individual is presented with mature/inappropriate content. Then they can just say that you lied about your age and that is not their fault.
Yes, so pretty much they don’t want to be held responsible. And the government is bending over to comply with the tech bros.
“Protect Children” !









