Fork time? Maybe all the anti-systemd zealots were right all along…
Edit: To address whether it is likely that this change will affect users: Gnome is planning a stronger dependence on userdb, the part of systemd where this change is being implemented. https://blogs.gnome.org/adrianvovk/2025/06/10/gnome-systemd-dependencies/
Just write a shell script that changes the birthday every few minutes lol
So what? I am (g)root.
They want to store the actual birthdays (not just a boolean stating it complies with an age bracket). And using claude to review PRs… fucking systemd
This is some sick early April Fools thing right…? RIGHT?!?
Can someone explain how they do this verification?
Not at all for now. Its just about storing the birth date in a way that the system can use it.
The Californian law doesn’t require being temper proof (yet)
Great that California allows us to be angry about it.
Colorado too and some other states have similar plans.
The EU plans go in a different and worse direction.
Something feels fishy… The user who made this pull request has more than doubled his contributions to various repositories since January (from 20–400 to more than 1100), and this is his first pull request in the systemd repo.
You mean they’re complying with the meta age verification at OS level lobbying?
https://github.com/upper-up/meta-lobbying-and-other-findings
Ofcourse the project run by a microslop employee wants to force this on almost every distro as soon as possible.
same thing with manifest v3, just some mega corp goon doing the work no one’s asked for
Poettering is not with Microsoft anymore, though
- get top recent commiters with https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pulse
- click on 1st link https://github.com/bluca and see https://github.com/microsoft in profile
Just 2 steps.
Yes Poettering isn’t at Microsoft but seems the person driving the project at the moment is.
This is the first time I’ve cared about the whole systemd debate, so that’s something I guess. Not interested in anything that kowtows to this age verification nonsense
Why do they need the age after all. What are authorities going to do with it?
Control what content you see and add some extra detail to fingerprint you.
If they can get this simple age verification done from everyone, it’s not going to be hard to add “new requirements” in the future
Either this or block access to people living in hostile places. Currently it is a parental control with no verification of the thruth. You can put 01/01/01 there, if you want. If it turns into identity verification we will see what we can do.
“Protect Children” !
They (politicians) are obsessed with control.
To my understanding, it’s also Meta that is lobbying for this. Basically pushing the responsibility elsewhere to the operating system vendors
But how would they know I have been truthful about my age? I mean I am never putting my real age when registering on websites.
I guess they want this law to fall back on in case an underage individual is presented with mature/inappropriate content. Then they can just say that you lied about your age and that is not their fault.
Yes, so pretty much they don’t want to be held responsible. And the government is bending over to comply with the tech bros.
Damn that’s crazy. It’d be a shame if someone not beholden to California law just forked the code
I was ambivalent about systemd up until now. If this gets merged I’m moving to a non-systemd distro. I do not live in California or even the USA. I do not want age verification garbage in my OS.
Iv not given a shit one way or another as well. But as a Californian I refuse to have this shit on my PC damn be what the law says.
Consider PCLinuxOS: they’re an RPM-based mandriva (mandrake/conectiva) derivative with really great and wide compatibility in stacks without the ‘modules’ shitfest RH started after no one remembered what ‘alternatives’ was for.
They don’t use systemd, but their installation is a bit shite as it’s a “live CD” installer – they pruned out the proper templatey install that mandriva has. But so far that’s the biggest issue. If they can get off networkManager we’ll be even better off, though.
Meta’s lobbies reach really everywhere these days.
Does BSD use systemd? I always wanted to try it and if this keeps up I might take the plunge.
I guess not, https://man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?init
There’s systemdless Linux distros! I used Artix Linux with no issues.
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Brazilian here. I’m neither a lawyer nor a specialist, just someone who has read the Portuguese text from the Brazilian flavor of the ongoing worldwide age check set of laws.
I must note that the Brazilian age check law (Lei 15.211/2025) specifies “vedada a autodeclaração” (English: “self-declaring is forbidden”). This means that this kind of implementation, where age or birthday is an user input, wouldn’t be compliant to Lei 15.211/2025, because it requires the age information to be assessed independently from the user whose age is being assessed. This means face biometrics, government-issued ID (in our case, CPF, CNH, Passaporte and similar) or “behaviorial analysis”… Anything but a “yes I’m 18” or “I was born in day month year”, for those are self-declared and the Law says it’s “not enough”.
Someone should warn the systemd maintainers of this “Brazilian jabuticaba”.
(Cross posting this reply of mine because the post was cross posted to two different Lemmy instances)
I believe this only stores that information. It’s not a system of declaring an age
