Hi everyone!
In the next year or so, my project is to rip all my blurays and put them on a 4tb external USB hard drive. I’ve already done it for all my DVDs, but I still have to buy an external bluray player in order to finish the job. My budget for the bluray player is CHF 75.- used, so around 75$. All this is done through MakeMKV.
Then, I’d want to have a small Linux PC that I’d use as a media center. My budget is under CHF 100.-, so around 100$. I’ve noticed that you can get 2014 MacMinis with i5 or i7 for that budget, but I’m open to any other brand.
What I’d want the PC to do: -Play all my movies stored on my external USB drive. I don’t think I have 4k movies, but I can’t exclude that some of my Blurays will be 4k in the future -Display my family pictures and videos stored on kDrive (a cloud by Infomaniak) through Firefox and WebDav -Play my music on my Yamaha Amplifier through Firefox and Tidal -Use the wifi for updates, browser based stuff, etc…
The PC would probably not be used for anything else for now, but it needs to be able to become a desktop PC again in the future if needed.
I’d want to operate the PC with a bluetooth mouse and only have to use a keyboard from time to time.
I’ve heard about Jellyfin, Libelec, Kodi and other stuff but I don’t really know what they are.
Thanks in advance for your advice!
I’d look at retired business machine, preferably something small like Lenovo or Dell SFF office pc, with 8th gen i3 at minimum. 8th gen is where the integrated gpu shines for this purpose. Install plex or Jellyfin. And if possible, stick to internal drives instead of external; one fewer thing to draw extra power. You could even do a second drive internally for backup.
here’s someone who installed linux on one.. If you need WiFi make sure you understand how to add the Broadcom module into the kernel.
The 2014 minis are all dual core haswell CPUs so don’t bother with the hotter i7 versions. You can’t upgrade the ram so buy what you need.
If you’re in Europe often the hp elitedesk is a used pc of note. The elitedesk 800 g4 specifically may be a better option since the sff ones can already have bd drives built in, can take extensive internal storage upgrades (2x nvme, 2x 3.5, 1x 2.5) and will have a four core eighth generation intel processor 99% of the time which makes 4k within reach.
Kodi is the media system package used by a lot of linux systems. Libreelec is a linux distribution that focuses on running kodi.
If your stereo has hdmi you can just plug one into the other and hear movies and tv sound through the stereo, if not then you’ll will need to do some kind of input switching to listen to music using the 3.5mm jack and movies using sound over hdmi.
E: don’t worry about power efficiency. Even the 2014 Mac you’re looking at is able to turn stuff off at the processors clock tree and idles at a low enough draw to not worry about.
I read your article and it was interesting.
I didn’t know the RAM on the 2014 MacMinis wasn’t upgradeable. Thanks for letting me know.
Also what did you mean by don’t bother with the hotter i7 version as I saw a lot of them for quite cheap? Are they bad or just too powerful for what I’d do?
As for the Broadcom module, I’ve done it on my 2012 upgraded MacBook Pro and it was easy in Fedora. Don’t know about other distros though…
The RAM is upgradable on the 2018 mini, though the storage isn’t. The ability to upgrade the RAM is a big part of why those ones have kept their value.
I actually use a 2014 mini as my general purpose home server.
The interesting thing about that model is that they were offered with a Fusion drive: so basically, some have a small SSD for installing the OS on, with a larger spinning HDD for everything else. If you do pick one up and it doesn’t have the adapter for an M.2 drive, you can buy them on eBay for less than £10.
edit to add: Mine is an 8GB model and I honestly haven’t found myself wishing it had more (for what I use mine, that is).
Mine runs Jellyfin, Navidrome, Mealie (a recipes app), pihole, and Booklore, and doesn’t give me any trouble.
So mine now has a 250GB M.2 SSD and a 1TB SATA SSD. When I installed Debian, I put /root on the M.2 and /home on the SATA, which works perfectly. The OS can have as much space as it needs without eating into the space my stuff needs. And I have an external 1Tb HDD connected too.
But yeah, as mentioned elsewhere, the wifi can be a pain on those Macs. Personally, I didn’t bother with it as it’s hooked up with Gigabit ethernet anyway.
Thanks for your answer! I only realized now that since it’s gonna be near my router, an Ethernet cable can do the job in case RPM Fusion and installling the Broadcom drivers isn’t enough.
Just sharing a little side project.
I wanted to write a side project for media streaming to see how things like Stremio work
Wrote a very minimal client in Go which took 5 weekends and I’ve so far been able to get it to look up something by tmdb code, grab it with prowlarr, Transcode when needed, present it as a link to work in browser
I’ve been slow with it but I’m pretty proud for both having no experience and not vibe coding (just good old-fashioned code theft off of Stack exchange sometimes)
Probably absolutely garbage but hey I learned a lot
My media server, which is just my server generally, is an old thinkpad I have from 2014. For media I use Jellyfin and I ensure the content is already in a format that will not require transcoding on any device I care to serve to (typically mp4 1080p hevc + aac).
If you look at the used computer market, there are endless options to attain what you are asking for. My only real advice is make sure the computer doesn’t draw much power and, if possible, doesn’t emit much or any fan noise. A laptop is a decent choice because the battery kind of serves as an uninterruptible power supply. I just cap my charge limit at 80% since I never unplug it.
Hardware
A mac mini is probably overkill for what you want to do. We are talking standard blu-ray after all, meaning your videos are going to be limited to 720p. Most hardware will have no problem dealing with that. The cheapest solution that’s fit for purpose is a refurbished thin client. They aren’t powerful or anything, but you don’t need powerful. You need quiet (passively cooled) and low on energy consumption.
Thin clients can be had on eBay for less than 30 Franks.
Software
- Kodi: originally known as the XBox Media Center (XBMC), a TV friendly menu to pick the movie or TV show you want to watch
- LibreElec: A Linux distro, that preconfigures and auto starts Kodi, not the best choice if you plan to use anything besides Kodi
- Jellyfin: A media server. If you got multiple TVs you might want to look into this one. It essentially let’s you operate your own Netflix, complete with a web frontend and apps for phones and TVs, integrates with Kodi
Standard blu-ray most certainly is not limited to 720p.
One thing you might consider is skipping buying the Blu-ray player and obtaining your movie rips alternatively. Only you know your appetite for risk, but so long as you’re only getting copies of the movies you own, I’d guess the risk is small. Besides, simply ripping your physical discs isn’t strictly legal everywhere, so that itself may have a small risk.
Put the money you save into a better machine.
The external Bluray poayer is a necessary for me as I really want to make copies of my own movies.
Some of them could also be difficult to find on torrent sites and a Blu ray player can also be useful to backup my videogames at one point.
In my country, it is legal to make copies of something you own. Even downloading movies is legal to make, but it ain’t what I want 😇
I hear you on those concerns. You may find that ripping blu-rays, even if legal, has technical decrypting hurdles too high to clear. Just keep your option open is my suggestion.
What kind of technical hurdles do you mean? Apparently makeMKV makes it quite easy but I’d be happy to have feedback
You shouldn’t have any issues with MakeMKV and normal blurays. 4K blurays can only be ripped with certain drives and they need custom firmware.
Okay thanks!
Secondary to that is that getting bluray to work on a computer is a pain. It’s not impossible, but its not natively supported on macos or Linux (I dont know about windows, haven’t used it in ages now).
Whereas is you do use the alternative methods, you dont have to fight with trying to get the os you’re using to work tlwoth bluray
Thirdly, the rips you’ll get from the alternative methods will likely be a better quality and/or smaller file size than a personal rip.
Libelec (kodi) is fine if only playing local media but its use for anything else except realdebrid is extremely lacking. On the plus side it will run great on an Rpi5 and if you go that route you can probably even use your TV remote because Libelec has excellent CEC support.
Jellyfin/Plex is something your TV also probably has an app for, so you wouldn’t even need a media center, just a media server.
Plasma Bigscreen is making slow gains, but in a couple of years will probably be the definitive Linux media center PC.
Also a bit unconventional, but Bazzite can load directly into Steam’s big picture mode. From there you could set shortcuts for Jellyfin or Plex HTPC.
I wouldn’t use an old MacMini for much because they aren’t actually power efficient, but any n100 for Ryzen5 minipic with Kodi on it would work just fine for you want. There are plenty of altern6to Kodi, but it’s so simple, it’s hard to pass up.
Could you give me an example of an n100 for Ryzen5 minipc? The power consumption wouldn’t be such a big problem as I’m never letting computer run when they are not in use, so it would only be on when we watch or listen to something.
Still the lower the power consumption, the better if it’s at an acceptable price and the thing can be upgraded/repaired if needed.
As long as it doesn’t use more energy than my current media center (a Playstation 5), I’m fine with it.
Minisforum makes good stuff, but only buy their Refurbished items if you don’t need something specific.
Lots of people buy Beelink minipcs for n100 boxes, but looks like the prices are all jacked right now. [This should only be about $150 maybe.](https://www.newegg.com/beelink-barebone-systems-mini-pc-intel-n95/p/2SW-0012-001Z2?Source=socialshare
From what I’m seeing, you can’t really get these in Switzerland sadly. The second hand market consists mostly of MacMinis, HP EliteDesk 800 G3/5, Intel NUC stuff…
I have to admit that I don’t know if any of these are good except the MacMinis (because Apple) and HP EliteDesk (because we used them at work for years).






