You do know, they will get eliminated if they pose any real threat to the current system? Also United Russia only kicked out whoever was not in their “circle”, they are the very people who plundered Russia in the 90s as well, you can track back most of notable people in the current administration to that.
United Russia is the nationalist bourgeoisie, not the imperialist western bourgeoisie that were looting the country. The nationalists stopped the foreign looting and solidified their power base. The CPRF’s support, as well as broader support for socialism in general, is something that UR can’t “eliminate,” it’s far too big of a movement for that. They can try, but it’s an accelerating movement as capitalism isn’t what it was sold as.
What’s the difference for a normal person? Half of European and Asian banks are full of these “nationalists” money stollen from the working people, and a country with litteral goldmines, rare earth, unlimited timber and some of the largest oil reserves is less developed then most of the middle east states whose population was nomadic less then a hundred years ago.
Id cheer nearly anything that challenges the current regime, but I’m afraid in a while you will find out, that there can be no organised popular movement there able to challenge the regime same as currently there can be none in the western states. Any live and not imprisoned opposition politicians in Russia are either controlled or currupted, every one they can’t easilly controlled is killed and imprisoned. Not that I particularly liked any of them, but this is how it works. And the masses can do shit against a modern internal army. So untill the regime falls by internal or external forces, there will be no change there.
The difference is that nationalists seek internal development for production, whereas imperialists seek underdevelopment to keep wages low and out of the higher “value add” parts of supply chains (that are really only “value add” because the west historically had a monopoly on them). The system isn’t working for everyone though, and as such communists are rising in quantity and the nationalists are forced into trying to claim soviet heritage. This isn’t really working, though, and the CPRF has been rising in support. Modern internal armies aren’t ominpotent, nor does it need to look like the Russian Civil War of the past.
Yeah, i know you follow a russian nationalist definition of imperialism in which russia can not be imperialist, but that’s beyond the point.
We could argue about what you belive to be true about a supposed communist party and what I know to be true for such organisations in the region, but neither of us is going to convice or educate the other, since there’s no respect on either of sides, so its a waste of time. Ill just point out that internal army in russia does not have to be omnipotent, but russia is authoritarian enough for any mass oposition to be impossible anyway. To put it simply: not much will cross an internal border control, or the regime controlled internet, unless the regime allows it. And that’s long before you’re reach areas really controlled by internal corps or FSB.
Anyway my point is just that the title is worded is such a way as to project a better image of a nationalist regime, and it is done be a russian nationalist posing as a communist. Do what you will with this, but its what half of supposed ideology here boils down to nowdays.
I follow the Marxist definition, Russian nationalism has nothing to do with it, and moreover we are speaking of western imperialists kicked out by Russian nationalists. Revolution has succeeded on far worse odds.
You are talking about them since its a topic your brought up. And honestly I dont understand why you belive that people exploited by their own are better of then exploited by foreigners, but I really don’t care for your dialectic explenation. Just hope you get out of that sect before you waste to much of your life trying to convince online strangers that what you read is true. Have fun, I’m off for some parxis and partying.
Go find that development in Russia. Its about 50km deep from the western border. Many areas have actually regressed compared to 90s or particularly early 80. Has to be noted that they were better of due to imperialist exploitation of satellite states, but you cover your ears and start screeching for that so whatever. But yeah, I’m out. Cya next time, same prorussian propaganda threads.
You do know, they will get eliminated if they pose any real threat to the current system? Also United Russia only kicked out whoever was not in their “circle”, they are the very people who plundered Russia in the 90s as well, you can track back most of notable people in the current administration to that.
United Russia is the nationalist bourgeoisie, not the imperialist western bourgeoisie that were looting the country. The nationalists stopped the foreign looting and solidified their power base. The CPRF’s support, as well as broader support for socialism in general, is something that UR can’t “eliminate,” it’s far too big of a movement for that. They can try, but it’s an accelerating movement as capitalism isn’t what it was sold as.
What’s the difference for a normal person? Half of European and Asian banks are full of these “nationalists” money stollen from the working people, and a country with litteral goldmines, rare earth, unlimited timber and some of the largest oil reserves is less developed then most of the middle east states whose population was nomadic less then a hundred years ago. Id cheer nearly anything that challenges the current regime, but I’m afraid in a while you will find out, that there can be no organised popular movement there able to challenge the regime same as currently there can be none in the western states. Any live and not imprisoned opposition politicians in Russia are either controlled or currupted, every one they can’t easilly controlled is killed and imprisoned. Not that I particularly liked any of them, but this is how it works. And the masses can do shit against a modern internal army. So untill the regime falls by internal or external forces, there will be no change there.
The difference is that nationalists seek internal development for production, whereas imperialists seek underdevelopment to keep wages low and out of the higher “value add” parts of supply chains (that are really only “value add” because the west historically had a monopoly on them). The system isn’t working for everyone though, and as such communists are rising in quantity and the nationalists are forced into trying to claim soviet heritage. This isn’t really working, though, and the CPRF has been rising in support. Modern internal armies aren’t ominpotent, nor does it need to look like the Russian Civil War of the past.
Yeah, i know you follow a russian nationalist definition of imperialism in which russia can not be imperialist, but that’s beyond the point. We could argue about what you belive to be true about a supposed communist party and what I know to be true for such organisations in the region, but neither of us is going to convice or educate the other, since there’s no respect on either of sides, so its a waste of time. Ill just point out that internal army in russia does not have to be omnipotent, but russia is authoritarian enough for any mass oposition to be impossible anyway. To put it simply: not much will cross an internal border control, or the regime controlled internet, unless the regime allows it. And that’s long before you’re reach areas really controlled by internal corps or FSB.
Anyway my point is just that the title is worded is such a way as to project a better image of a nationalist regime, and it is done be a russian nationalist posing as a communist. Do what you will with this, but its what half of supposed ideology here boils down to nowdays.
I follow the Marxist definition, Russian nationalism has nothing to do with it, and moreover we are speaking of western imperialists kicked out by Russian nationalists. Revolution has succeeded on far worse odds.
You are talking about them since its a topic your brought up. And honestly I dont understand why you belive that people exploited by their own are better of then exploited by foreigners, but I really don’t care for your dialectic explenation. Just hope you get out of that sect before you waste to much of your life trying to convince online strangers that what you read is true. Have fun, I’m off for some parxis and partying.
It’s simple, nationalists want development for greater profits while imperialists want underdevelopment to retain their superprofits.
Go find that development in Russia. Its about 50km deep from the western border. Many areas have actually regressed compared to 90s or particularly early 80. Has to be noted that they were better of due to imperialist exploitation of satellite states, but you cover your ears and start screeching for that so whatever. But yeah, I’m out. Cya next time, same prorussian propaganda threads.