.worlders really need to expand their dialogue options, you see all of them very quickly

So is the public owning going to lead to you developing any introspection?

Do you ever get tired of being confidently incorrect?

I can understand why they would be ok with killing members of Hamas

Then you understand why they would be ok with killing Palestinians in general.

not literally every Palestinian is a member of Hamas.

Killing civilians would still be wrong even if they were.

You say you don’t understand this thinking? Well you’re half way there by accepting that murdering civilians is ok if they’re part of “the bad guys”. The next step is just extending who counts

it’s widely believed

Whenever you see this phrase, it’s going to followed by nonsense nobody serious believes.

the logic

The logic is that you went “oh, China and Russia are bad guy countries, so they’ll go on the bad guy team, just like in the comic books!”

The Democrats support this

“You said this!”

“What? No I didn’t!”

“How dare you debate my subjective experience!”

No, you’re just lying.

You’re lying.

So many people on ML specifically were convinced that Trump was going to solve the crisis.

Literally no one said this; you’re lying through your teeth because you’re bitter your genocider of choice lost.

At this point I expect the West to respond to an Israeli nuclear attack by declaring opposition to nuclear weapons to be anti-semites

The US also deserves blame, given the degree they support Israel

Pure idealism

There is, but the EU has just straight up decided they aren’t going to enforce it. Basically admitting that the ICC is just for the West’s enemies.

We can tell that you stop reading anything that challenges you already, you don’t need to tell us

And it’s the same people who voted him that who are now condemning Iran and defending Israel. Whatever ideology they claim to possess, the one they actually practice is white supremacy.

That’s hardly a reasonable comparison though is it?

It’s entirely reasonable, you just have a white supremacist double standard.

The allies during WW2 were mostly functioning democracies.

The vast majority of the British Empire couldn’t vote and were considered lesser beings. The US had racial inequality inshrined into law and a habit of murdering minorities. The USSR I leave as an exercise to the reader.

This conflict is a theocratic dictatorship

I assume you mean Israel.

which treats women as second class citizens

Lol, the WW2 allies absolutely treated women as second class citizens, and criminalised homosexuality. Its also ghoulish the way westerners go "these countries treat minorities badly, so it’s ok to kill them (including the minorities). Ukraine isn’t perfect about minorities either, do you use that to say they deserve to get invaded? Oh wait, Ukraine in white.

Both sides are fucking evil and to celebrate one over the other is ignorant.

The British Empire was more evil than Iran by multiple orders of magnitude, yet for some reason (white supremacy) you don’t take this stance on WW2

Whataboutism

Most of the allies in world war 2 were horrible, repressive regimes. I would still support them.