• BrainInABox@lemmy.ml
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    11 hours ago

    You can’t cite Russian conscription as evidence that Russia is losing and then say that Ukraine also using conscription doesn’t matter

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      11 hours ago

      I didn’t say either of those things you’re saying.

      This is what I said :

      I’m sure Ukraine is in a similar position, but it doesn’t sound like a clearcut win for Russia, either.

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        10 hours ago

        If it’s mirrored on both sides, then why the fuck would you bring it up as a reason to think Ukraine isn’t losing?

        What you’re doing is actually moving the goal posts, by the way

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          10 hours ago

          why the fuck would you bring it up as a reason to think Ukraine isn’t losing?

          I was bringing it up as a reason to think the case for Russia winning wasn’t a clear slam dunk.

          Resorting to conscription to fill your ranks is not something you do when you’re “obviously winning”.

          And before you make a claim about Ukraine resorting to conscription, too, at no point have I claimed Ukraine was “obviously winning” either.

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            9 hours ago

            Why is that a reason, if that particular factor is a wash for both sides?

            Resorting to conscription to fill your ranks is not something you do when you’re “obviously winning”.

            Uhuh. So when the Soviets were flattening Berlin they weren’t obviously winning? When the US had sunken the entire Japanese Navy and were systemically saturation bombing the Japanese mainland, they weren’t obviously winning?