Curious what folks are using to organise their remote connections? I liked WinSSHTerm and have tried replacing it with Remote Desktop Manager, but it seems a bit broken (fonts look terrible in a terminal, sftp doesn’t work, RDP sort of works, but it’s not great).

RDP is not a must. Folders, ssh, key auth, sftp and scp are the main things I’m looking for. Currently considering Remmina but though I would check if ppl have strong views on this topic before trying the next app.

I’m using cinnamon with mint 22.

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    The reason you are having trouble finding a replacement is because thats not really how the linux world approaches things.

    Learn the terminal, scp, ssh (esp key auth if you havent), sshfs, tmux, vim or emacs and you will find you are incredibly effective at modern admin tasks. If you havent already, look into something like saltstack or ansible to make your life even easier.

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      I use those tools already and have been administering Linux/bsd/docker for years. What’s new for me is using it as a desktop. The existence of scp, ssh etc dont solve this problem and while I find it interesting to learn how other admins are essentially making their own central console out of these components, it is a bit much seeing commenters insist that this is the same thing, or suggesting that anyone who wants a central console for their remote systems must be somehow incompetent. Sysadmins can have different workflow and tooling preferences.

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    XPipe is what I use, supports syncing via git, SSH, sftp, RDP, vnc, etc… And can manage docker containers too. It also has scripts you can define that automatically work on any SSH connection.

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    Not a GUI, but I keep my ~/.ssh/config clean by splitting my configs into folders, and including them in the main ~/.ssh/config.

    I have the folder, ~/.ssh/config.d/, and here’s what it looks like:

    ~/.ssh/config.d
    .
    ├── work
    │   ├── dev.config
    │   ├── staging.config
    │   └── prod.config
    └── server
        ├── development.config
        ├── containers.config
        ├── home.config
        ├── pis.config
        └── server.config
    

    Then my ~/.ssh/config looks like this:

    Include config.d/work/*
    Include config.d/server/*
    Include config.d/other/*
    
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      Oh well that’s just sexy. Never knew ssh config recognized Include.

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      Cool, I did it with my git config a couple weeks ago, I didn’t know you could do it with ssh too.

      for those interested:

      [include]
      path = ~/.config/git/shared.ini
      path = ~/.config/git/dev-machine.ini
      path = ~/.config/git/aliases.ini
      path = ~/.config/git/self.ini
      
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      A graphical interface to store and sort the remote connections. I have 20+ remote systems I need to maintain and apps like this provide tabbed experience like a browser to connect to them.

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        If you’re dead set on a GUI for this, I guess you’d be in the minority which is why you’re probably not finding a lot out there.

        I think Remmina does this though, and it’s solid as an RDP client otherwise.

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          Yeah seems like Remmina is it. Termius looks nice but the price doesn’t make sense.

          Surprising that not many Linux sysadmins want a central console with folders for SSH, file copy and remote desktop connections.

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            As everyone keeps saying…it’s just not a thing that actual sysadmins or fluent users need. Using ssh configs is essentially the same thing that you’re looking for, but you’re just typing alias hostnames instead of clicking on them. Otherwise absolutely no difference. Not many people are connecting by IP address or anything like that.

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              It absolutely isn’t the same, but I appreciate learning that this is how many linux admins manage their connections.

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                Why do you think it’s not? What feature would a GUI have that’s not trivial in a terminal?

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                  I’ve explained this at length?

                  Single app with unified hierarchy for all systems sorted by work, home, client, prod, staging. Within each you can choose to use SSH or VNC or RDP or SFTP or scp. When copying files there’s a side by side GUI so you can browse easily. I have done this using various apps in windows for 20 years and couldn’t imagine tracking all those servers/routers/devices without a central console.

                  It is obviously not the same as manually making all these connections and using different apps for each of them and backing them up with git.

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            I’ve yet to find anything more efficient than opening my shell and typing ssh or scp. Remote desktop is irrelevant to me because none of the systems I administrate will ever have a GUI.

            EDIT: tab auto completion also makes things far, far smoother.

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        I have 20+ remote systems I need to maintain and apps like this provide tabbed experience like a browser to connect to them.

        I’ve found that if you’re using ssh then taking your hands off the keyboard to grab a mouse just to click a different tab is slow and annoying.

        I use a terminal multiplexer, tmux, and just keep different sessions open for each server that I need to connect to.

        leader = CTRL+b (you can change this but this is the default)
        
        leader s - Open session manager
        leader c - Open new window in the session
        leader 0-9 - Swap to Window 0-9
        leader % - Split screen vertically
        leader left/right arrow, move between split screens
        leader z - full screen the active screen
        leader d - disconnect from the tmux session
        etc
        
        tmux -a to re-connect to the tmux session
        

        There’s a ton of hotkeys and plugins that can handle essentially anything you’d like to do. Once you learn the few hotkeys (print a cheatsheet and force yourself to use the hotkeys).

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          Tmux is awesome. We’ve somehow fallen into using screen at work, I think just old habits. So yes, on the other side of the ssh connections there’s usually a series of screen sessions for us to join. Should try to move onto tmux - it is nicer.

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        You can have multiple ssh config files, with includes, to keep the configurations structured and organized, and not one long dump file, then use any gui terminal app that supports tabs. And tab+auto complete hostnames from the said configs. Some apps also support something like multiple profiles, so you can put there your ssh <host> command, if you want some gui lists. I follow this approach and it is very portable, as the only thing I need to care about are my config files.

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          I dunno. The folders keep things sorted between work and home. And within work each client. And within there the prod and staging systems are separated. I guess I could make separate scripts for each host but that’s kind of what I want the manager for. Also not sure how this covers the right click, copy files workflow of scp or sftp.

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    Take a look at PortX. Just installed it today in Windows and Fedora 42. I have a Synchthing server where I store a Veracrypt vault with the public keys.

    Remmina is great but no Windows option.

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      That looks pretty good, cheers. Another comment mentioned Tabby, also cross platform.

      Both PortX and Tabby seem a whole lot nicer than winsshterm. Shout out to guacamole for a dockerised jump sever solution.

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    How about XPipe?

    https://xpipe.io/

    It can even auto-configure itself by parsing out your ~/.ssh/config so you can keep everything defined there for easy CLI access but also use the GUI when desired.

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    I really like Asbru and have been using it for a couple of years. I used Remmina for a little while but never liked its look and feel.

    Not too much active development has been going on lately, sadly, but the latest version still works very well.

    https://www.asbru-cm.net/

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    I’ll be watching this discussion, as I’m currently using Remmina. It meet the bare minimum of SSH & RDP, but it doesn’t have a clear method to organize connections and instead uses a big list. I also find the interface a tad counterintuitive, so maybe I’m just using it wrong.

    It also seems to have a bug where it launches twice whenever I start my computer. So I have to close one.

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      Portx, tabby and guacamole are my contenders so far. Guac would be needed for the graphical stuff - it’s sort of like a jump server running in a docker container that you would vpn into I guess? Neat concept.

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    I would say, like many others, Remmina.

    Putty also has a Linux version, so you can use that as well. Its session management is a bit clunky, but it works and it offers some fairly good functionalities.

    But ssh is first and foremost a command line tool. As others have said, invest some time to learn its commands and configuration files.

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    Use Tabby. It is, by far, the closest to a Linux terminal experience. Likely because it’s cross platform. I say this as someone that absolutely despises Windows terminal experiences.

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    Uh, I just type ssh or rsync into the terminal and that’s it. It’s a manageable amount of computers/servers I connect to, so I can remeber their names. Regular ssh stores all the keys or custom ports / IPs in its config. What’s the advantage of using some manager?

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    I use Apache Guacamole, which works great for just about any kind of remote access and has a dead simple to use Docker Container.

    It supports folders, copy/paste, uploading/downloading files, multiple open connections at once, and alternative mouse modes for touch screens. Best of all, it’s completely free and open source.

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        I currently run it with Keycloak for Auth and previously had it behind a Nginx Proxy Manager reverse proxy, but have since switched to using a Cloudflare tunnel.

        It works great and allows me to provision limited and controlled access over various game servers to admins of those servers. They can access what they need and nothing more, and only on the servers that they have been granted access.