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    1 month ago

    What worse can Orange buffoon do to the world. At least with him in the helm the world will understand the truth US doesnt care about anyone or anything but itself.

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      1 month ago

      He can, in fact, make a lot of stuff worse. And I promise you, he will if he gets the chance.

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          In some ways, maybe. But I think a destruction of the US would also cause a lot of problems.

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            Yes, a controlled dismantlement would be better than collapse, and proletarian revolution would be best, but currently there’s not much prospects for either of those, so:

            “There were two “Reigns of Terror,” if we would but remember it and consider it; the one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the “horrors” of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror, so to speak; whereas, what is the horror of swift death by the axe, compared with lifelong death from hunger, cold, insult, cruelty, and heart-break? What is swift death by lightning compared with death by slow fire at the stake? A city cemetery could contain the coffins filled by that brief Terror which we have all been so diligently taught to shiver at and mourn over; but all France could hardly contain the coffins filled by that older and real Terror—that unspeakably bitter and awful Terror which none of us has been taught to see in its vastness or pity as it deserves.” ― Mark Twain, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court

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                “power vacuum” is when all the filth was vacuumed and there is a chance. that chance vanishes when filth starts piling up again and someone else gets into power, creating the need to vacuum again. i’ld rather like it tidy and clean than filth-controlled.

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              so then its fully okay for you if its the us thats to be broken then, thanks for admitting it. and after breaking the omlettes eater’s own eggs for him to consume there’s then a chance that no omlettes need to be made any more. a chance of improvement is always better than no chance for it.

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                The US government is putting the boot on your necks too. The empire isn’t run for your benefit, it is run at your expense.

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                  the ‘empire’ is run to everyone’s expense including the 'empire’s own expense even if they show a whole mess of false evidences that their’re not. they are.

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                  i meant improving society and strengthen its immune system against threats that would otherwise cause collapses. imperiums cause and collapse/vanish all the time, just try to count the already vanished ones in “known” history, i guess while you are still busy counting the known ones there will be even more “newly found” by archaelogists. while lots of them just vanished without trace, some vanished but just weren’t found yet.

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      Comments like this are one of a few things.

      Bad faith, and useful idiots intentionally trying to keep people from wanting to go out and vote, which only helps MAGAts.

      And dumbass, blind as shit privileged people who think nothing has changed in the last decade because you’re simply not part of the target groups yet.

      Life is so much worse for so many people because of Trump and to pretend like it wouldn’t get worse with a second presidency (you know, the one where they intend to destroy democracy and the voting process and have said as much and have documents detailing how they plan to do it) is simply idiotic.

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        But democracy and the voting process brought us Trump! It brought us genocide, it brought us child separation, it brought us the CIA, it brought us children in solitary confinement, it brought us the police force, it brought us Vietnam, it brought us nuking Japanese civilians, it brought us indigenous genocide, it brought us Flint, it brought us the highest rate of incarceration in the world over the last century.

        What does destroying US democracy and US voting actually, materially, change?

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          But democracy and the voting process brought us Trump! It brought us genocide

          the genocide filth that imho lasts >400years now has never been removed in the first place, i’ld guess it wasn’t brought there by voting process, but it wasn’t removed by it either.

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            Oh the genocide was absolutely a function of the republic qua republic. Elected representatives dealt with “the Indian problem” in various ways that garnered votes.

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        Hell even on the issue of Cuba specifically, during his presidency Trump chose to undo the progress Obama had made. He has already made it worse

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      Well for one, he’d make it worse for Americans, specfically women.

      America often acts it’s own self interests which are going to run counter to the world sometimes. But if I am chosing between voting to benefit my fellow Americans or some other country… it’s gonna be America. I expect and witness the same from every other country as well.

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        Toppling elected governments, propping up dictators, attacking countries without reason, suppoting terrorists all in the name of self interest.

        Don’t feel bad if the world wishes the same to your country.

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          We do and we dont. Almost 350 million people have differences of opinion quite frequently. Thankfully most of the world thinks our positives outweighs our negatives.

          Either that or they are too weak to stop us in any meaningful way. We’ve seen how many genocides over the past few years from superpowers and no one does anything? Only way you’ll see a real check on America or China’s power is through a world War which everyone rightfully wants to avoid.

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            Only way you’ll see a real check on America or China’s power is through a world War which everyone rightfully wants to avoid.

            Other way is to use your tactics of election interference on you and gift you Trump.