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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 days ago

5 ways the Iran war shows NATO is not ready to fight Russia

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5 ways the Iran war shows NATO is not ready to fight Russia

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 days ago
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  • GiorgioPerlasca@lemmy.ml
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    A war between NATO and Russia would kill millions of people in minutes. I don’t think it would be a smart move.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      Unfortunately, our glorious leaders seem to think otherwise.

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    Good thing there is absolutely no reason to fight them then

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    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      looks like somebody’s been guzzling propaganda uncritically

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        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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          the least deranged comment of the day everybody

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            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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              meanwhile in the real world

              https://ukrainewarlosses.org/

              https://kyivindependent.com/wars-are-not-won-without-people-budanov-warns-of-mobilization-crisis/

              go home little fash

              • Alexstarfire@lemmy.world
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                Casualties aren’t the same thing as deaths or MIA. Casualties also include injured and those taken out due to sickness.

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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                  right, casualties are a superset of killed and MIA, but we see that overall casualties on both sides are about even and far lower than mainstream western media pretends

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                • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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                  Why do racist fascists come to the fediverse?

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                  raging racism isn’t helping beat the fash allegations lmfao

      • Alexstarfire@lemmy.world
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        It’s like 4 years into a 3 day “special operation.” What makes you think Russia could do well against better armed nations, let alone NATO.

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          Except Russia never said anything about about a 3 day operation. It came from General Milley during an interview with Fox News, where it was presented as a rough estimate of what American forces might do. You will not find a single statement from Russia to that effect.

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            Well, that was only being used to reinforce my point. Even if it’s not true, it’s still 4 years into a war with a much smaller country. The rest of comment still stands. Russia would certainly do worse against better armed nations or NATO.

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              It’s 4 years into a war with the entire industrial and financial power of NATO using a the people of Ukraine to fight Russia. All the weapons in Ukraine are NATO weapons and they’re being defeated in Ukraine. Don’t take my word for it though, here’s what NYT has to say on the subject https://archive.ph/ThjaB

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                I know they aren’t exactly fighting on their own, but it’s also not the same as fighting NATO directly. Somehow you keep missing the point.

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                  Seems to me that you’re the one missing the point. Ukrainians use NATO weapons, but their actual skill in fighting is far higher than that of NATO armies that haven’t seen combat. In a recent NATO exercise, 10 Ukrainians wiped out two NATO battalions in 24h with drones, NATO troops couldn’t even locate the launch points. So, Russia is fighting a superior army to that of NATO that’s using best NATO equipment.

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              Even if it’s not true, it’s still

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          whos ammo stockpile that cant be replenished cos lack of productive forces and that could be used right now in the ME has been destroyed in the last few years? russia or us empire? you libs think wars are won by beign fast. you think this is fucking CS when you win by points. search war of attrition you might learn a concept or two.

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          It seems technology has once again made it easy to create military stalemates regardless of the nations fighting.

          This seems like a hard lesson to learn for many in different countries. Perhaps those obstinate generals of World War One, those that ordered failed assaults, should be looked at differently, and not judged so harshly as history has.

          Because people seem to just do this

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          The operation taking longer is exactly because NATO got involved. Now Russia switched to a war of attrition and making sure they don’t take on too many losses while they are also going to collapse the Ukrinazi state and forcing the EU and their bloodthirsty liberals to eat the cost of having thrown ukrainian men into the meat grinder.

          The tactics and equipment used and destroyed are already NATO. The lifes lost, however, are not.

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    Iran war is not Nato only us

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      Funny…

      https://www.airandspaceforces.com/american-forces-europe-key-us-war-iran/

      Just a reminder that whilst the people of Europe may be against bombing Iran, you do not live in a democracy and you have zero power to stop your government from enabling it.

      You live in a bourgeois autocracy with democratic window dressing.

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      Just because they are not participating directly doesn’t mean they are not involved. Nato countries assit with intel and sanctions to weaken iran capacity to defend itself

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        That has absolutely fuckall to do with the headline

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          Who said I am addressing the headline? I addressed your own point that this is only the US war and not NATO while Nato is involved in non direct military action . Non direct military support is still very valuable in war

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      “Only US” and a bunch of european countries and some asian one’s as well. Them not officially declaring war, does not mean they are not involved.

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