The head of Iran’s parliamentary committee on national security and foreign policy said that by providing drone support to Israel, Ukraine has “effectively become involved in the war.”
Zelenskyy earlier stated that Kyiv has already deployed interceptor drones and a team of specialists to help protect US military bases in Jordan.
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Why are you complaining about communists on a community known to have a lot of communists? Secondly, Ukraine sanctioned Iran and has been assisting with western attempts to strangle Iran for decades.
The constant attempts to intentionally conflate communism and tankism is insidious.
“Tankism” isn’t an ideology, communism is. “Tankie” is just a pejorative for communist.
For the third time in this thread I will go ahead and correct your intentional misinformation campaign.
Tankie is a pejorative for auth communists.
You’re insidiously trying to act as if this is the red scare 2.0. There’s a reason we call you tankies. It’s because you’re tankies.
“I’m right because I’m right!”
Very compelling
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“Im right because it’s clear I’m right!”
Lol, go back to reddit you fucking nerd. Talking like an anime villain written by Joss Wheadon isn’t actually a compelling argument past 12 years old
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What does “authoritarian” mean, in your words? If the overwhelming majority of communists support socialist states, isn’t that just being a communist? I support the working class having the authority of the state to suppress capitalists and fascists, and I am against the capitalist class having that authority. I’m also for a democratically run society. What separates my views from what you believe a “non-authoritarian communist” believes?
Lmao. You know very well that the idea of stateless communism exists, so no. The overwhelming majority of self-described communists support socialist states? According to who? Polling from CPUSA? Your interpersonal relationships? There are plenty of leftists on lemmy who would call themselves anarchosocialist or anarchocommunist. But okay, sure, I kinda get the idea behind “well if the majority agrees that a socialist state is required for communism, doesn’t that just make it communism?”. But these people are ALSO sometimes communist. Tankie is a pejorative mostly used by leftists to punch right, not by liberals to punch left. That’s been what I’ve seen. Liberals don’t even know what the fuck a tankie is outside of lemmy. Liberals here just use it because actual leftists use it to punch right at auth commies.
Don’t joke with me. You know the material difference between a state imposing law on sometimes unwilling citizens and people that live harmoniously in good will with one another.
Communism is stateless, but it can only come about post-socialism, which has a state. You cannot skip from capitalism to communism.
The CPC alone has over 100 million members, and communist orgs around the globe are most commonly Marxist-Leninist. This includes the Black Panther Party, which supported the DPRK and sent people to learn from the WPK and CPC:
We aren’t talking about anarchism.
I’ve only ever seen it used by liberals or anarchists, and never to punch right but to punch left.
Is your point that any state with laws is authoritarian? I’d agree, which is why it’s better for the working classes to control the state as they do in socialist countries so that we can collectivize all production and distribution to erase the material basis of the state for good.
Yes, my point is that any state with laws is authoritarian. I think I also said in another post that I think an authoritarian government does not have to be bad. The problem is that the government is doing bad things, though, so like…
How do we not all understand the moral inconsistency of insisting people “not vote for genocide” and then be complicit in things like Russian imperialism and Chinese suppression of freedoms lol
You are illiterate.
“tankism” lol
Go ahead, elaborate on the lol.
I’m not the one coining ridiculous terms to smear people
Yeah, I coined tankism, for sure. What’s so ridiculous about it? Go ahead.
Edit: “when asked to commit to just a smidgen of intellectual honesty, i would rather downvote”
It’s ridiculous because “tankie” isn’t an ideology, at best “tankism” is a pejorative for communist ideology the way “tankie” is a pejorative for communists.
Oh please, stop being intellectually dishonest. Authoritarian communism is what we call tankism, tankie, and I think campism is in that same boat? Idk I don’t say campism.
We all know the truth. Stop lying about it. You’re an authoritarian communist. Stop trying to brand yourself as “just a communist”. Your “critical support” justifies wanton atrocity and leaves no room for genuine criticism.
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Ukraine started the hostilities in 2007. Ukraine joined the sanctions on Iran in for the civilian nuclear program . Sanctions indirectly kill people
They restricted nuclear technologies exports in 2007. A bit different than helping repeatedly bomb housing and hospitals
Ukraine has a civilian nuclear program; why can’t Iran have one? The sanctions also include the missile program, which denies Iran the right to improve its army for defense and restricts dual-use materials, affecting civilian projects as well. Trading with Israel also helps Israel kill people throughout the region.
Furthermore, without the West making itself the enemy of Iran, Russia would never have acquired Shahed technology. By continuing to be stubborn, the West ensures Iran will get even closer to Russia, not the opposite.
What I am advocating for is the renormalization of relations with Iran to limit Russian power; what you are suggesting is vengeance that will only hurt Ukraine, not Russia. With a vengeance mentality, one could justify First Nations in Canada helping to murder the descendants of settlers, or Africa assisting in the murder of civilians from former colonial powers.