do you deny the last 8 years of Banderite terror before “evil RuZZia attacked us poor peole unprovoked”
you’re like fucking zionists who think hjistory started on oct 7
Yes I don’t think that happened, if Russian people had been oppressed in Eastern Ukraine then they would have moved just several miles east into the open arms of Russia and been safe. They would hardly have stayed if they felt in danger. I do know someone who made the mistake of staying put in Bucha when the Russians arrived and saw them murder civilians in the street.
if Russian people had been oppressed in Eastern Ukraine then they would have moved just several miles east into the open arms of Russia and been safe
Thank you for admitting that you, just like the Nazi regime in Kiev, dream of ethnically cleansing Eastern Ukraine. Just like the Zionists want to do in Gaza. No wonder they say they want to be a “larger Israel”.
Why should people who are native to that land and have lived on it for generations move? They stayed and they fought back and defended their homes and their land.
Also, citing obvious false flag atrocities committed by the Nazi side that you support isn’t the win you think it is.
wow negationism, a good old nazi practice.
Never mind the facts or reporting on it before the western regime press suddenly had to say ‘no nazis in ukraine’
most people leaving ex-ukraine actually went to Russia instead of leeching of the west.
And no, they don’t need to move because the nazi thugs attacked them.
And lol at Bucha, the ridiculous BS story where the mayer is laughing a day after Russia left and 3 days later they suddenly find a massacre.
And the victims just happen to wear (pro-Russia)white armbands and had Russian food boxes.
This when the nazi Safari regiment was sent in to clear the area of ‘Russian collaborators’.
So fuck you nazi revisionist.
Again it’s those fascist thugs that did the warcrimes.
But you keep supporting the great EU/US side.
Unappologetically on the side of shitrael genociders and mass mrdering Iranian children.
disgusting
I heard the details of the Bucha massacre first hand from a none Ukrainian relative who witnessed it first hand so I am as confident as I can possibly be with that one… I am also very much not in favour of bombing Iran or Gaza. I have a strict not in favour of murder or war whoever does it stance… the idea that any oppressed Russian could easily have popped across the border to Russia to be safe is just my own logic admittedly I have no good knowledge or what may or not have been occurring in eastern Ukraine before.
a none Ukrainian relative who witnessed it first hand
That makes it second hand.
If have zero confidence in his impartiality.
And I am confident of the FACTS I mentioned since they were reported by the mayor of Bucha himself and their own pictures and videos.
None of it makes sense with their fantasy story.
And why din’t those oppressed ukrainians just hop over the border to Poland to be safe?
Where are you coming from here? Sure you don’t believe my brother in law eye witness the way I do, that’s fine but are you saying you don’t think Russian soldiers and missiles have killed hundreds of Ukrainian civilians during the invasion? And as you already said many civilians have fled abroad, my brother in law did have that option it was just plain foolishness that meant he tried to ride it out in Bucha before he was rescued by Ukrainian soldiers. And if I had been Putin and I wanted to safeguard the Russian speakers in Donbas then I would have given everyone of them a visa and an apartment in Russia, I assure you it would have been easier and several billion dollars cheaper than his invasion…
you don’t think Russian soldiers and missiles have killed hundreds of Ukrainian civilians during the invasion?
And another lie you claim I said.
Civilian deaths happen in war unfortunately.
But it’s you who deny 14000!!! deaths and a complete 8 years of war on civilians before that.
It I would’ve been zelenski I would’ve kept my word and not broken the Minsk accords.
Or not have a fascist coup to begin with, that would’ve been much easier.
You ever been to Ukraine or Russia? Ive been crossing that border. If there was any meaningfull opression in eastern Ukraine people would run to Russia and be happy to be refugees. Eastern Ukraine was poor as fuck and western russia was a massive potemkin village, some 50-100km into Russia looked great, compared. Nearly EU level. Only when you get beyond that you get tp see the actual state of the country, and even the areas where money is pumped lools more lile american slums.
Oh, and yeah nazis from Ukraine should be dealt same way the Russian ones. Fuck banderites, amd fuck anyone who attempts to label an d stogmatise entire society by one minority group, an utterly nazi thing to do btw.
they bombed them for 8 years, a lot worse than “meaningfull opression”.
All civilian targets.
And why should they run from their own country and let it be taken over by Banderites? A lot left, a lot stayed.
Same on the other side.
The economic situation is irrelevant.
As in all western propaganda ypu minimize the scope and influence of Banderites.
Nazis don’t magically change their ideology because the Azov scum change their nazi logo a bit as we are made to believe.
Also they, as most visible and blatant are describesd as unique and an exception.
While there are plenty fascist batallions like Sich and Tornado.
There are plenty more outside of the military and they have infested others with their ideology when they joined other instances of society.
And here’s the nr 1 challenger for Zelenski should they have elections in ‘free and democratic’ ukraine.
I’m not saying everyone in ex-ukraine is a fascist but minimizing and whitewashing their huge nazi problem as is done here in the west is disgusting.
but that is of course the easy way for the US and vassals of getting regime change without fighting.
Arm and fund terrorists of all kinds in countries they don’t like.
Whether it’s fascists or headchoppers like Jolani, etc…
Later to be rehabilitated when they take over a country and become a puppet regime.
Yeah, and yet theres no proof for that claim in satellite or aerial pictures. Should look like the surface of the moon after 8years. Compare to any village or city Russian offensive rolls over, theres hardly a wall standing.
And why should they run from their own country and let it be taken over by Banderites?
Thought they were Russians and part of Russia since forever? Can you settle for one version of the propaganda claims?
As in all western propaganda ypu minimize the scope and influence of Banderites.
Where are you from mate? Cuz actuall Banderites slaughtered tens of thausands of people in my country. I often travel around a region where ethnical cleasing from both sides left hundreds of villages abandonded and covered by forrests. Being antifa its rather hard not to take that into consoderation, especially when cooperating with our comrades in Ukraine. Now who the fuck are you to claim to know what is going on? Where are you active and what are your sources on information on this? What gives you the right to question the people actually dealing with this?
Yeah, and yet theres no proof for that claim in satellite or aerial pictures.
you’re insane, even western biased the OSCE has detailed reports on those bombings.
Thought they were Russians and part of Russia since forever? Can you settle for one version of the propaganda claims?
you’re deliberately twisting my words.
They are ethnic Russians with ukrainian nationality.
They have a right to live there which they did before the banderite scum had their coup and started attacking and discriminating them.
The rest of your statement suggests that you are from Poland.
They might have also been victim of banderites but that country is certainly in the top Russophobic countries, where I suspect your bias comes from.
Probably also why they don’t give you impartial news and you clearly haven’t seen the OSCE reports or other news.
Maybe if you’re so familiar with the territory visit the Alley of Angels and the many places where the scum dropped petal bombs that hurt kids and other civilians.
And if you claim to be antifa you should know that there are 12 parties forbidden in ex-ukraine, mostly from the left and they arrested the union members.
But probably your ‘comrades’ are anarchists, always on the wrong side against what the west calls ‘authoritarian governments’
Always used as gullible tools, same as with the Kurds doing the US imperialists work when they are made to fight a country the US wants to take over.
Tell me, how do you feel about the Nuland-Pyatt call where the US government decided who would be in the government after the coup?
Or is it likely this is another case of them being hypocrites?
I am Belgian and following this since before the start and the first regime chance operations with Yuchenko and that right-wing cunt Timoshenko.
I have as much right to have an opinion as you and maybe more.
I have access to every side and despite massive propaganda in my neutral opinion it is very clear who is the aggressor.
I have no reason to be biased.
You from Poland with its righ-wing government and Russophobia clearly only have one-sided news.
Which is obvious since you claim there is no proof of an 8 year bombing campaign.
That’s like denying the sun.
Really buddy, inform yourself
That would be equally bad.
OP spent last few years denying whats going on in Ukraine.
do you deny the last 8 years of Banderite terror before “evil RuZZia attacked us poor peole unprovoked”
you’re like fucking zionists who think hjistory started on oct 7
Yes I don’t think that happened, if Russian people had been oppressed in Eastern Ukraine then they would have moved just several miles east into the open arms of Russia and been safe. They would hardly have stayed if they felt in danger. I do know someone who made the mistake of staying put in Bucha when the Russians arrived and saw them murder civilians in the street.
Thank you for admitting that you, just like the Nazi regime in Kiev, dream of ethnically cleansing Eastern Ukraine. Just like the Zionists want to do in Gaza. No wonder they say they want to be a “larger Israel”.
Why should people who are native to that land and have lived on it for generations move? They stayed and they fought back and defended their homes and their land.
Also, citing obvious false flag atrocities committed by the Nazi side that you support isn’t the win you think it is.
wow negationism, a good old nazi practice. Never mind the facts or reporting on it before the western regime press suddenly had to say ‘no nazis in ukraine’ most people leaving ex-ukraine actually went to Russia instead of leeching of the west.
And no, they don’t need to move because the nazi thugs attacked them.
And lol at Bucha, the ridiculous BS story where the mayer is laughing a day after Russia left and 3 days later they suddenly find a massacre.
And the victims just happen to wear (pro-Russia)white armbands and had Russian food boxes.
This when the nazi Safari regiment was sent in to clear the area of ‘Russian collaborators’.
So fuck you nazi revisionist.
Again it’s those fascist thugs that did the warcrimes. But you keep supporting the great EU/US side.
Unappologetically on the side of shitrael genociders and mass mrdering Iranian children.
disgusting
I heard the details of the Bucha massacre first hand from a none Ukrainian relative who witnessed it first hand so I am as confident as I can possibly be with that one… I am also very much not in favour of bombing Iran or Gaza. I have a strict not in favour of murder or war whoever does it stance… the idea that any oppressed Russian could easily have popped across the border to Russia to be safe is just my own logic admittedly I have no good knowledge or what may or not have been occurring in eastern Ukraine before.
That makes it second hand.
If have zero confidence in his impartiality.
And I am confident of the FACTS I mentioned since they were reported by the mayor of Bucha himself and their own pictures and videos.
None of it makes sense with their fantasy story.
And why din’t those oppressed ukrainians just hop over the border to Poland to be safe?
Where are you coming from here? Sure you don’t believe my brother in law eye witness the way I do, that’s fine but are you saying you don’t think Russian soldiers and missiles have killed hundreds of Ukrainian civilians during the invasion? And as you already said many civilians have fled abroad, my brother in law did have that option it was just plain foolishness that meant he tried to ride it out in Bucha before he was rescued by Ukrainian soldiers. And if I had been Putin and I wanted to safeguard the Russian speakers in Donbas then I would have given everyone of them a visa and an apartment in Russia, I assure you it would have been easier and several billion dollars cheaper than his invasion…
And another lie you claim I said.
Civilian deaths happen in war unfortunately.
But it’s you who deny 14000!!! deaths and a complete 8 years of war on civilians before that.
It I would’ve been zelenski I would’ve kept my word and not broken the Minsk accords.
Or not have a fascist coup to begin with, that would’ve been much easier.
You ever been to Ukraine or Russia? Ive been crossing that border. If there was any meaningfull opression in eastern Ukraine people would run to Russia and be happy to be refugees. Eastern Ukraine was poor as fuck and western russia was a massive potemkin village, some 50-100km into Russia looked great, compared. Nearly EU level. Only when you get beyond that you get tp see the actual state of the country, and even the areas where money is pumped lools more lile american slums.
Oh, and yeah nazis from Ukraine should be dealt same way the Russian ones. Fuck banderites, amd fuck anyone who attempts to label an d stogmatise entire society by one minority group, an utterly nazi thing to do btw.
they bombed them for 8 years, a lot worse than “meaningfull opression”.
All civilian targets.
And why should they run from their own country and let it be taken over by Banderites? A lot left, a lot stayed.
Same on the other side.
The economic situation is irrelevant.
As in all western propaganda ypu minimize the scope and influence of Banderites.
Nazis don’t magically change their ideology because the Azov scum change their nazi logo a bit as we are made to believe.
Also they, as most visible and blatant are describesd as unique and an exception.
While there are plenty fascist batallions like Sich and Tornado. There are plenty more outside of the military and they have infested others with their ideology when they joined other instances of society.
And here’s the nr 1 challenger for Zelenski should they have elections in ‘free and democratic’ ukraine.
I’m not saying everyone in ex-ukraine is a fascist but minimizing and whitewashing their huge nazi problem as is done here in the west is disgusting.
but that is of course the easy way for the US and vassals of getting regime change without fighting.
Arm and fund terrorists of all kinds in countries they don’t like.
Whether it’s fascists or headchoppers like Jolani, etc… Later to be rehabilitated when they take over a country and become a puppet regime.
Yeah, and yet theres no proof for that claim in satellite or aerial pictures. Should look like the surface of the moon after 8years. Compare to any village or city Russian offensive rolls over, theres hardly a wall standing.
Thought they were Russians and part of Russia since forever? Can you settle for one version of the propaganda claims?
Where are you from mate? Cuz actuall Banderites slaughtered tens of thausands of people in my country. I often travel around a region where ethnical cleasing from both sides left hundreds of villages abandonded and covered by forrests. Being antifa its rather hard not to take that into consoderation, especially when cooperating with our comrades in Ukraine. Now who the fuck are you to claim to know what is going on? Where are you active and what are your sources on information on this? What gives you the right to question the people actually dealing with this?
you’re insane, even western biased the OSCE has detailed reports on those bombings.
you’re deliberately twisting my words.
They are ethnic Russians with ukrainian nationality.
They have a right to live there which they did before the banderite scum had their coup and started attacking and discriminating them.
The rest of your statement suggests that you are from Poland.
They might have also been victim of banderites but that country is certainly in the top Russophobic countries, where I suspect your bias comes from.
Probably also why they don’t give you impartial news and you clearly haven’t seen the OSCE reports or other news.
Maybe if you’re so familiar with the territory visit the Alley of Angels and the many places where the scum dropped petal bombs that hurt kids and other civilians.
And if you claim to be antifa you should know that there are 12 parties forbidden in ex-ukraine, mostly from the left and they arrested the union members.
But probably your ‘comrades’ are anarchists, always on the wrong side against what the west calls ‘authoritarian governments’
Always used as gullible tools, same as with the Kurds doing the US imperialists work when they are made to fight a country the US wants to take over.
Tell me, how do you feel about the Nuland-Pyatt call where the US government decided who would be in the government after the coup?
Or is it likely this is another case of them being hypocrites?
I am Belgian and following this since before the start and the first regime chance operations with Yuchenko and that right-wing cunt Timoshenko.
I have as much right to have an opinion as you and maybe more.
I have access to every side and despite massive propaganda in my neutral opinion it is very clear who is the aggressor.
I have no reason to be biased.
You from Poland with its righ-wing government and Russophobia clearly only have one-sided news. Which is obvious since you claim there is no proof of an 8 year bombing campaign.
That’s like denying the sun.
Really buddy, inform yourself