• Jaberw0cky@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    I heard the details of the Bucha massacre first hand from a none Ukrainian relative who witnessed it first hand so I am as confident as I can possibly be with that one… I am also very much not in favour of bombing Iran or Gaza. I have a strict not in favour of murder or war whoever does it stance… the idea that any oppressed Russian could easily have popped across the border to Russia to be safe is just my own logic admittedly I have no good knowledge or what may or not have been occurring in eastern Ukraine before.

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      13 hours ago

      a none Ukrainian relative who witnessed it first hand

      That makes it second hand.
      If have zero confidence in his impartiality.
      And I am confident of the FACTS I mentioned since they were reported by the mayor of Bucha himself and their own pictures and videos.
      None of it makes sense with their fantasy story.
      And why din’t those oppressed ukrainians just hop over the border to Poland to be safe?

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        11 hours ago

        Where are you coming from here? Sure you don’t believe my brother in law eye witness the way I do, that’s fine but are you saying you don’t think Russian soldiers and missiles have killed hundreds of Ukrainian civilians during the invasion? And as you already said many civilians have fled abroad, my brother in law did have that option it was just plain foolishness that meant he tried to ride it out in Bucha before he was rescued by Ukrainian soldiers. And if I had been Putin and I wanted to safeguard the Russian speakers in Donbas then I would have given everyone of them a visa and an apartment in Russia, I assure you it would have been easier and several billion dollars cheaper than his invasion…

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          9 hours ago

          you don’t think Russian soldiers and missiles have killed hundreds of Ukrainian civilians during the invasion?

          And another lie you claim I said.
          Civilian deaths happen in war unfortunately.
          But it’s you who deny 14000!!! deaths and a complete 8 years of war on civilians before that.
          It I would’ve been zelenski I would’ve kept my word and not broken the Minsk accords.
          Or not have a fascist coup to begin with, that would’ve been much easier.