And yet with all these AWOL russia is still barely able to gain ground. When the soldiers stop recieving pay or the famlies dont recieve anything throughout the year the tone will change. St Petersberg is covered in shit, who knows how many other cities have seen the same catastrophic failures of the sewage systems.
And yet Kiev is doing worse, and is losing ground steadily, with an increasingly unpopular war effort. Again, how do you see Kiev winning? What does that look like?
$4 billion in air defenses destroyed by Ukraine, and the functioning air defenses just hit a russian apartment building.
Probably another soviet style collapse where there are a bunch of countries made from one big one and Pootin, Mr 5’1" who stands on stuff to look taller, gets the shit kicked out of em in Moscow
It kind of sounds like rather than constructing an overall picture of the war, you’ve woven together a quilt of the most carefully selected and unflattering vignettes that western media has been able to produce, and extrapolated baselessly from that. I expect Ukraine’s surrender will come as a shock to you.
This isn’t material reality, though. Kiev is fighting back, but is losing, both in terms of ground and those willing to fight. NATO does not have the industrial capacity to continue fielding the war, and the war itself is increasingly unpopular in western Ukraine. By focusing on what damage Kiev has succeeded in dealing, you’re turning a blind eye to conditions within western Ukraine itself, where the material reality is steady and consistent loss.
There’s no sign of the Russian Federation breaking up. The population is, as I said, relatively united in support for the war. The two major factions, the nationalists and the communists, agree seemingly only on continuing the war. Putin’s still popular enough that the idea that there will be a collapse is closer to fantasy than material analysis.
As a side-note, the USSR was several countries united, it was a multinational federation, not one big country.
Sorry but ALL of the radar amd missile launches destroyed are ALL on video and can be watched unlike Russian claims of territory control
Its easy to control a populus when you control what news they can get. literally the only reason russians support the war.
You’re using semantics to try to make it seem like I dont know what happened. No shit the UNION was created of a bunch of countries UNDER A SINGLE GOVERNCE.
Russian territory control is verified by both Kiev and Russia. You can watch it on video as well, if you want, or follow live map updates, such as from this pro-UA account. Russia is steadily gaining more territory, bit by bit, because this is an attrition war where Russia can afford to take its time while Ukraine cannot, due to having a lower industrial capacity and fewer people willing and able to fight.
Its easy to control a populus when you control what news they can get. literally the only reason russians support the war.
The reason Russians support the war, including communists and the nationalists, is because Donetsk and Luhansk are predominantly ethnically Russian. After the Banderites, backed by the west, took over Ukraine in 2014, Donetsk and Luhansk seceded. The president they supported was coup’d by the far-right, and the new regime began suppressing the Russian language. This started a decade of civil war. Russians are united in opposing the west, and in supporting the seperatists, leading to steady support.
You’re using semantics to try to make it seem like I dont know what happened. No shit the UNION was created of a bunch of countries UNDER A SINGLE GOVERNCE.
It was a side note, and you did say it was a country. The important distinction is that the federation was broken up, not the individual countries. These countries had their own governments, and participated in the broader socialist system as well. Lots of these countries have had nationalist movements gain power, such as in Ukraine. It isn’t really me trying to get a win on you, just a minor correction in terminology.
Go on tell me I dont know anything, go on. Idiot
I’m not trying to get a cheap win on you or insult your intelligence. You’re fully capable of carrying this conversation, I just see absolutely no chance of Russian collapse nor Kiev’s victory.
Russia isn’t trying to overtake all of Ukraine, though, just the four oblasts that already want to be a part of the Russian Federation. Further, as strongholds are taken, it accelerates Russia’s advance, while willingness and ability to fight in Kiev falls. There’s no reason to expect this strady rate will be the only rate the war proceeds at until its conclusion.
Another reason for the slow advance is the advent of drone warfare, which is extremely deadly and slows any movement.
And yet with all these AWOL russia is still barely able to gain ground. When the soldiers stop recieving pay or the famlies dont recieve anything throughout the year the tone will change. St Petersberg is covered in shit, who knows how many other cities have seen the same catastrophic failures of the sewage systems.
Honestly its sad to see
And yet Kiev is doing worse, and is losing ground steadily, with an increasingly unpopular war effort. Again, how do you see Kiev winning? What does that look like?
$4 billion in air defenses destroyed by Ukraine, and the functioning air defenses just hit a russian apartment building.
Probably another soviet style collapse where there are a bunch of countries made from one big one and Pootin, Mr 5’1" who stands on stuff to look taller, gets the shit kicked out of em in Moscow
It kind of sounds like rather than constructing an overall picture of the war, you’ve woven together a quilt of the most carefully selected and unflattering vignettes that western media has been able to produce, and extrapolated baselessly from that. I expect Ukraine’s surrender will come as a shock to you.
And Pootin getting the boot will be a shock to you too
Ok, mind if I save this exchange for posterity?
I dont delete my comments
Ok that’s cool I’m gonna go ahead and save it
This isn’t material reality, though. Kiev is fighting back, but is losing, both in terms of ground and those willing to fight. NATO does not have the industrial capacity to continue fielding the war, and the war itself is increasingly unpopular in western Ukraine. By focusing on what damage Kiev has succeeded in dealing, you’re turning a blind eye to conditions within western Ukraine itself, where the material reality is steady and consistent loss.
There’s no sign of the Russian Federation breaking up. The population is, as I said, relatively united in support for the war. The two major factions, the nationalists and the communists, agree seemingly only on continuing the war. Putin’s still popular enough that the idea that there will be a collapse is closer to fantasy than material analysis.
As a side-note, the USSR was several countries united, it was a multinational federation, not one big country.
Sorry but ALL of the radar amd missile launches destroyed are ALL on video and can be watched unlike Russian claims of territory control
Its easy to control a populus when you control what news they can get. literally the only reason russians support the war.
You’re using semantics to try to make it seem like I dont know what happened. No shit the UNION was created of a bunch of countries UNDER A SINGLE GOVERNCE.
Go on tell me I dont know anything, go on. Idiot
Russian territory control is verified by both Kiev and Russia. You can watch it on video as well, if you want, or follow live map updates, such as from this pro-UA account. Russia is steadily gaining more territory, bit by bit, because this is an attrition war where Russia can afford to take its time while Ukraine cannot, due to having a lower industrial capacity and fewer people willing and able to fight.
The reason Russians support the war, including communists and the nationalists, is because Donetsk and Luhansk are predominantly ethnically Russian. After the Banderites, backed by the west, took over Ukraine in 2014, Donetsk and Luhansk seceded. The president they supported was coup’d by the far-right, and the new regime began suppressing the Russian language. This started a decade of civil war. Russians are united in opposing the west, and in supporting the seperatists, leading to steady support.
It was a side note, and you did say it was a country. The important distinction is that the federation was broken up, not the individual countries. These countries had their own governments, and participated in the broader socialist system as well. Lots of these countries have had nationalist movements gain power, such as in Ukraine. It isn’t really me trying to get a win on you, just a minor correction in terminology.
I’m not trying to get a cheap win on you or insult your intelligence. You’re fully capable of carrying this conversation, I just see absolutely no chance of Russian collapse nor Kiev’s victory.
Even with current rates of advancement it will still take 40 years to overtake Ukraine. Russia is pathetic
Russia isn’t trying to overtake all of Ukraine, though, just the four oblasts that already want to be a part of the Russian Federation. Further, as strongholds are taken, it accelerates Russia’s advance, while willingness and ability to fight in Kiev falls. There’s no reason to expect this strady rate will be the only rate the war proceeds at until its conclusion.
Another reason for the slow advance is the advent of drone warfare, which is extremely deadly and slows any movement.
The sewage plant is back online since last week.
And yet the streets are still covered in shit
Are you using a metaphor to describe the contents of your mind here?