The warning was direct, blunt and left no room for doubt. “We expect all ICC actions against the United States and our ally Israel – that is, all investigations and all arrest warrants – to be terminated,” said Reed Rubinstein, legal adviser at the US State Department, before delegates of the 125 member states of the International Criminal Court (ICC) on Tuesday, July 8, at a meeting at United Nations headquarters in New York from July 7 to 9.
If the ICC arrest warrants for crimes against humanity and war crimes issued against Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and former defense minister Yoav Gallant on November 21, 2024, as well as ongoing investigations into crimes committed in the Gaza Strip and the settlement of Palestinian territory, are not dropped, “all options remain on the table,” he declared.
I wonder who the bad guys are
I know, it’s super hard to tell from a moral point of view.
I always thought that Killeen civilians was a war crime but obviously it’s more complicated than that. Fortunately the US is here to explain things in a calm and coherent manner.
There is no statue of limitations on genocide. And Trump won’t be president forever. And younger Americans (i.e. the future) are really fucking sick of Israel’s shit.
Fortunately when these laws were introduced, they were not applied retrospectively, so settler nations where the genocides kicked off 200 years ago are totally exempt! Phew that was close.
I’m not aware of any laws that have been passed that are applied retroactively. It’s referred to as an ex post facto law, and in the U.S. it is prohibited in the Constitution (for whatever that is worth these days).
People are still voting for the same two party supporting israel unconditionally
The cracks are really starting to show. The Democratic party is effectively tearing itself apart right now.
And Trump won’t be president forever.
So? The previous administration had the same policy on Israel, as do both parties currently.
The American public used to broadly support Israel. That support has plummeted in the last 2 years, particularly among younger Americans. As they age into a more prominent voting demographic, this changes the types of platforms that politicians run, and win on.
I want to point out that the shift in opinion is more a generational one than left/right one, even though there is a notable difference between the parties.
The politicians are still payed by aipac, all the already strong support for palestine by people did nothing . People will still vote for the same two zionist parties. Netenyaho is determined to do the final solution . How many more months gazan can survive?
What does that have to do with Trump then?
That his policies won’t be in effect forever.
But supporting Israel isn’t a Trump specific policy.
yeah, good luck hoping a future murican president will fix this
They don’t have to. They just have to stop blocking other nations from doing so, e.g. via UN vetoes and various sanctions against ICC.
Have any USA president, from any of the 2 allowed parties, ever NOT blocked or vetoed a sanction against Israel or allowed a modicum of dignity to Palestine?
Reagan, of all people
Wow, this was a shock! hehehe
Nah, the more time passes, the less incentive there is for many people to pursue justice when there are newer things on their plates.
Same as modern Web’s “attention economy”.
But frankly in classical cultures they knew that too, catch the moment, now or never.
I think this is, in large part, one of the reasons many of these authoritarian types get out of control.
On some level they know whether or not they consider their actions to be illegal that other people will. At some point they anticipate blowback and a lot of their flailing overreach stems directly from trying to get out ahead of any consequences that may come their way.
It absolutely is. It’s one of those things that you can’t really turn back from once you start down that road.
I think it’s time for the ICC to start issuing arrest warrants for US leaders, their backers and their repugnant little think tanks
Which of the coward leaders will apply it?
Member countries would have to divest from the dollar first. We got everyone to use our currencies as a form of stabilizing politics and now we have a group of bad actors using that to their advantage.
BRICS is making headway with that.
The US empire is already in decline. What it’s allies need to work out is when to jump ship
BRICS has the downside of including Russia.
It might not seem that way, but Russia is actually the shittiest of USA’s minions. Its “independent” actions like war with Ukraine are no more independent in fact than those of Saudis.
It’s definitely aligned with the stinkier part of USA’s elites, but somehow had good enough relationship with all of them.
Maybe reforming UN as a candidate for some actual world confederation would be a better idea.
I’ll bite. This is a genuinely new take I haven’t seen before, despite 3 years of the war. Would you mind explaining how exactly Russia is an American minion?
3·18 hours agoCan someone on lemmygrad post a reminder that many instances have defederated from you (lemmygrad) and can therefore not see your comments. I keep seeing you peeps replying to people that will never see your comments.
lemmy.world is one of them. Rottingleaf is not going to see your comment, it doesn’t show up on lemmy.world
Skill issue
I’m stupid. I completely forgot that the worlders have enforced an authoritarian tankie censorship regime 😔
And g7 has good economical ties to israel. If russia is well tied to the other brics countries it would be easier to pressure them to end the war
EUR is honestly a better reserve currency, more stable already.
About divesting from dollars - I dunno how hard this is. Probably would be better for the US to provoke it to signal that time is nigh. Because otherwise this can only happen very slowly.
Please don’t. I don’t need americans invading my country.
Fuck Israel… And the US.
And the UK and Germany. Two of the supporters in the EU.
Germany has disgusted me, they spent so long trying to make amends they elected a race to superiority. Spineless hypocrites.
they spent so long trying to make amends
Did they really though? They worked to appease their guilt but never really dealt with the underlying reasons it happened in the first place.
Most of those that did the dirty work during ww2 just went home after and carried on.
Same with the British. Most people have no idea about how or why all the shit in the middle east started or why it continues.
Yes, about the British and the French - these are countries that still fought small undeclared colonial wars after USSR ceased to exist.
They still fucking do.
Jordan is still not very different from a UK puppet regime.
Also why the West loves Arab monarchies so much - because they don’t change anything in inconvenient directions. They sell oil, buy weapons, build nice shit. But their countries are not just staying on one place in terms of democracy, enlightenment and human rights - they are further into medieval shit than they were after liberation from the Ottomans. Then they were sort of “naturally”, traditionally tribal and medieval. Not much different from many parts of the world. But since then those puppet monarchies, installed by empires, have been changing their societies in the opposite direction. The West not just supports Muslim religious movements against Leftist movements, the West supports Muslim monarchist and fundamentalist creme-de-la-creme (not) basically Nazi movements like our recent time’s ISIS against Muslim republican and Leftist movements. So some Muslim and socialist mojaheds, like those US supported in Afghanistan, are not good enough when guys like HTS are available. Even Egypt’s ikhvans, with their democratic component, are not good enough. Only Salafi beheaders in black with their nasheeds.
Germany - at some point their society realized firmly that there are mistakes in the past to be worked through. Unfortunately that was somewhere in the 90s, and in the middle of that process they for whatever reason abruptly decided that they have understood enough and are now a morality specialist nation. Which is why a German often feels entitled to express their opinions on the Holocaust as if their nation were participating in the victim role.
In some sense USSR was a huge spoiler. It took upon itself a lot of hopes of this world, despite Stalin and repressions, and then Brezhnev happened - just covering every budget inefficiency by selling natural resources to the supposed enemy, covering every pipeline hole by buying technology of the supposed enemy, resolving every deadlock between interested local producers by cloning technology of the supposed enemy, and so on. Then after 10 years or so the whole Soviet society and even more its elite were confident in Soviet system’s inferiority, and it couldn’t end any other way than it did from that point.
they elected a race to superiority
Unless a member of that race is against Israel, then you’ll get sometimes the nicest kinds of things like “or, so then it was all right for you?” from them - that being about Holocaust.
warns
No; “threatens”. Get it right, news headline writers! It’s not a warning but a threat.
It’s like how most Canadians view America as a threat and not a warning (oh, wait. Maybe we do see it as a warning too, as we have our own soulless charlatan oilman scumbag politicians).
The way media across the world sane washes and softens Trump will never be something ill understand.
Threatens is when big bad Iran says something mean >:(
Yep well considering the US leadership is basically following 1930s Germany as a guide.
The exact reason the ICC was formed. Yeah objections are to be expected.
The British Empire is most notable on this picture with its glaring absence.
Except we dont have decent leaders anymore, they will bend as they have done.
are not dropped, “all options remain on the table,” he declared.
That being dicks offered to him
Trump’s threatening to hold his breath.
Obey your masters, know your place.
the most galling thing about this is that most will continue to insist that we’re still following the rules based world order.
And they’d be right; the whole point of the phrase “rules based international order”, is that it invokes the good connotations of “international law”, while not actually meaning anything like international law, and instead just meaning brutal western hegemony.
i guess it’s just another example of people not bothering to look beneath the surface of a soundbite or slogan that sounds good.
The “rules for you not for me” world order is just in effect as usual
Hague Invasion Act, lets go!
Or what?
"U.S. President George Bush today signed into law the American Servicemembers Protection Act of 2002, which is intended to intimidate countries that ratify the treaty for the International Criminal Court (ICC). The new law authorizes the use of military force to liberate any American or citizen of a U.S.-allied country being held by the court, which is located in The Hague. This provision, dubbed the “Hague invasion clause,” has caused a strong reaction from U.S. allies around the world, particularly in the Netherlands.
In addition, the law provides for the withdrawal of U.S. military assistance from countries ratifying the ICC treaty, and restricts U.S. participation in United Nations peacekeeping unless the United States obtains immunity from prosecution. At the same time, these provisions can be waived by the president on “national interest” grounds. "
https://www.hrw.org/news/2002/08/03/us-hague-invasion-act-becomes-law
That’s fucked up…
Par for the course for this country
Or the US will step up its material support for genocide?
No.
they already did, little imperialist cucks, bibi flies over europe without issues
“tRuMp WiLl Be HaRdEr On IsRaEl ThAn KaMaLa”
You’re meant to quote something people actually said when doing that.
Whatever you voted for trump or harris you are complicit . Don’t talk about we have no choice but two vote to the two evil parties
I mean, you can’t be complicit if you voted for Kamala because she has and had zero say on foreign policy. A vote for Biden 2020, sure. So one is only complicit if they voted for Trump.
She showed no intention to change anything about the foreign policies
No, no you see it’s “Trump will get harder for Israel than Kamala.”
