And I’m sure it’s annoying you too. You can’t view a single YouTube video anymore anywhere one is posted, without that stupid notification popping up. Which forces you to have to go to the shitty YouTube site, log in, hope through whatever verification checks that there is and finally, you can watch the video.
Isn’t there a way anymore where people can just link videos and for them to play? Fuck you, Google.
Free VPNs will get that a lot.
Even in paid VPNs, you still have to change servers until you find one that works.
Proton VPN (despite CEO controversies) is probably the best one to get around that, since they have 11000 servers.
I got this message when not on vpn. Changed it to a eastern block country and it disappeared instantly.
Pop-ups begging for my email are worse. I’ve started putting “admin@<their domain>” as the email and signing them up for everything.
I dismissed one today with fuckoff@wanker.com. Then I found step 2 was a paywall. I really fucking hate those popups that ask for an email without telling you there’s a paywall next, sometimes there’s something I think I want next but the paywall tells me I don’t, but then they’ve already got my email even though I haven’t signed up.
Hr19@opm.gov is another viable solution, if not as directly effective.
trumpisapedophile@epstein.island
I usually go with gofuckyourself@<their domain>
I am less annoyed by YouTube being shit and more annoyed by 3rd party websites clinging to YouTube for their video hosting needs because it is free. I’m also annoyed by the degree to which scrappers and other automation tools have made “Are You A Bot?” filters necessary to conserve the (relatively) limited resources of big retail web front-ends.
Like, fuck YouTube, sure. But they’re not putting these blocks up for the thrill of it. They’re trying to limit served content to actual humans rather than automated engines intended to juice view counts and harvest “free” data for AI training.
When I was signing up for something, (maybe Lemmy?) I got caught in a CAPTCHA where I had to identify street lights. Every time I clicked one the picture would change and there would be more street lights. Eventually I gave up, clicked Submit and it let me in.
Yeah I hate that too. For me it’s always bicycles, buses or motorcycles. All the fucking time.
They’ve been using us the whole time to train their AI autopilot driving technology.
Looks like they trained it bad on purpose, as a joke.
I am bleeding, making me the victor
Meanwhile, at least 90 percent of comments on Youtube are made by bots.
On the Internet, 90 percent of statistics are made up.
Dead internet theory is real, at least on youtube.
Its a self-perpetuating cycle. Set aside the normally deplorable state of YouTube comments. Once you hit a critical mass of “Neat!” and “I liked it 💖🇺🇸🎆” and “Prussy en bi0” comments, why the hell would you bother reading much less participating? Then human interactions tank and its Oops! All Bots! in short order.
Anybody know the difference between FreeTube, LibreTube, and NewPipe? Are there even more?
These are all unique and different projects with their own codebases, devs and issues. If you want to learn more, try searching for their official git repos. If you want to see a quick list of YouTube related apps, with screenshots, feature lists, and links to the project pages then I suggest using F-Droid with the
IzzyOnDroid F-Droid Repoenabled, and just searchingyoutube.For a bit more details on how yo do that check out my other comment https://lemmy.world/comment/15622037.
Ok. I wanna make this happen on Android. I am a complete dummy and the only thing I ever got off github had like step by step written instructions somewhere. What do I do?
Do I just download the freetube-0.23.2.13-Android.apk (latest release) from the releases site… Or do I need to build it first or something from the link you provided? Building it seems extremely daunting.
You can totally just install the latest release straight from the git repository. However, how often will you remember to check if there is a new release? If you want your apps to stay up-to-date you have 2 options. (Ordered from least effort to most effort)
- F-Droid (minimal setup, slower releases)
- Install F-Droid or one of the many 3rd party clients (I like Droid-ify the most right now)
- enable the
IzzyOnDroid F-Droid Repoin the Repository settings of the F-Droid client - install FreeTube Android
- Obtainium (moderate setup, quickest releases)
- Install the latest release of Obtainium directly from the git repo
- go to app configurations search for Obtainium and click on the
add to Obtainiumbutton so that Obtainium can update itself when there is a new release. - In Obtainium, click on
Add App. Then insert the release page URL for FreeTube Android (https://github.com/MarmadileManteater/FreeTubeAndroid/releases) as the value forApp Source URL, then click theAddbutton next to it and you are set.
You are amazing! Thank you so much! Cowabunga!
Interesting, I do use Freetube on laptop but it’s been finicky about when it wants to work lately. I figured it was more of YT blocking bs.
I tried Newpipe for Android and it wouldn’t work, so I went to the fork PipePipe which does work better, but at some point I had to login so it could use my API because YT blocked that too. Plus PipePipe can scan NicoNico videos and Bilibili videos.
How good is Freetube on android?
I love it and yes, sometimes youtube makes a breaking change that any dev needs to find a work around for.
I use freetube on both because I can manage subscriptions better on it, and export to newpipe or freetube desktop easily. Freetube also includes sponsor block which is great.
I also keep newpipe on my phone as a backup since sometimes it works when freetube doesn’t. I auto-update freetube from fdriod but let obtainum auto-update newpipe straight from their git repo so I know I got a good chance if having at least one working app.
I haven’t tried pipepipe, it’s been a long time since I watched a billibilli vid. (BGM!!!)
This is the way.
Are you a bot? Because that’s the kind of post a bot would do.
You’re in violation of the 84’ treaty on account of illegal thoughts.
Beep Boop.
…and that’s exactly what a bot would SAY!
Captchadgot them!
I was trying to recover my Steam password last night and failed so many of those “check all the boxes with MOTORCYCLES” that it stopped even letting me try anymore. Fucking broken bullshit.
I’ve failed those before, probably because I move rather mechanically. I’ve tried deliberately putting delays and random mouse movements while don’t them.
Lol I’ve had the same thought. On ones that make you click all the squares that have a bike or whatever, I always click a wrong one and then unselect it. Ya, that’s totally human behavior now.
Piped is working again. I use it and Newpipe
I use revanced and nexttube
But do either of them allow like embedded links to be shared?
Bots are a problem. No single measure completely gets rid of them. Each measure just removes some of the bots. I personally think accounts are a decent measure, everyone should have a password manager anyway that lets them automatically log in on all their devices.
The problem of course is the tracking that’s being done with the accounts, but I think the accounts themselves aren’t the problem.
That’s part of it, but it’s certainly ALSO a mechanism to encourage people to use an account, or to register if they haven’t, because that’s more trackable and monetisable.
Same reason why when you hit an X post or an Instagram post it normally lets you see a little tease but roadblocks you to sign in as soon as you start scrolling. They want you signed in for their own reasons.
If google wanted, they could implement a range of measures to disincentivise bots, like not counting views apart from signed-in users so there’s less reason for bots to be engaging with the platform, but that also is bad for their ad view monetisation metrics so they surely don’t want to do that. They’d rather inconvenience the user.
So I say tracking is the problem, and you say that tracking is the problem? Good that we agree :D
Then why the fuck do some sites require a CAPTCHA before letting me log in?
Because like I said, different measures hold back different bots.
If there are 3 bot softwares, maybe 1 can solve captcha and use accounts, 1 can only make accounts, 1 can only use captcha.
With only account login you get 2 bots, with only captcha you also get 2 bots, with captcha before login you only get 1 bot.
Excuse me but what sort of DDOS is being mitigated by requiring a CAPTCHA before allowing login?
That’s giving a middle finger to your existing users right at the front door.
Authenticating a registered user is so quick there’s no good excuse except laziness and indifference to user experience.
The DDOS of having your users scammed, spammed, them seeing illegal/harmful content, propaganda, whatever bots do.
Trying to get rid of bots is a worthwhile endeavor. How exactly you do it, and I criticize captchas as well, is up to debate, yes. But dismissing it completely just means you haven’t really noticed what those measures do. It’s like an IT department that just works and that management thinks is unnecessary.
It’s so they can track you better.
If you’re in the US and using a Chromium based browser, so long as you don’t view “adult content” they usually don’t pop this up.But they can’t track in Firefox, and because of GDPR, they can’t track logged-out users in the EU, so it’s all about the money. I use Vivaldi and a VPN to watch youtube, works mostly fine.EDIT: Well never-fucking-mind…this strategy has worked for me without fail for a lonnnnng time, and today they got me…same day the pulled uBlock origin from the Chrome store…dicks.
Pipepipe
Whenever I encounter that while trying to view something in private browsing (to avoid it tainting my recommendations), I go out of my way to use an alternative frontend just to spite them.
Doesn’t happen to me, but I don’t browse behind a VPN. People behind VPNs get this usually because lots of bad actors also hide behind VPNs.
Commercial VPNs are too inconvenient and saturated these days. It is not 2010 anymore. Every commercial VPN is leveraged by scrapers and other bots. If you use them, expect to face captchas. For the same price as a commercial VPN provider I rent a VPS and run OpenVPN on it. Personal, private, dedicated IPv4.
You are all nerds, act like it.
If I could get a VPS for $2/mo for something like this, I would definitely swap off of my VPN provider. If you do a ‘build your own plan’ with Windscribe, it’s $2/month for me, and they easily saturate my symmetrical gigabit connection. Anything close to that price is usually an incredibly small amount of metered bandwidth comparatively. This month I’ve used something like 30tb worth of bandwidth without blinking an eye.
Bootlicker spotted
You have no clue whatsoever how internet security works, do you… and also anyone who has used a VPN will tell you that this is how it works. The instant you’re behind a VPN, you’re part of a block of IP addresses which are generally reserved for datacenter usage.
There’s some exceptions to this, as some VPNs are kinda shady and route through residential IP addresses, but a lot of the time when someone is trying to get around an IP ban, region lock, etc – they’re going to use VPNs. So companies the world over block VPN IP ranges by default for that very reason.
This is why you get the captcha requirements, this is why you’re clicking pictures of busses non-stop.
Damn boy you really love the taste of leather in the morning…
You are over loaded on corpo koolaid, why are you shilling for the enemy?
Sundar is that you, u old creep?
I thought MAGA were as dumb as you could get, but here you are proving me wrong. Way to go. The bar was pretty low and you still couldn’t step over it.
Why u mad tho?
Nobody mad. Didn’t hurl an insult at you, didn’t crawl in the mud with you and act like a child. But you couldn’t stand your own ignorance, and you had to lash out because you didn’t understand. Tried explaining it to you, and you doubled down. No reason for me to be mad at you wanting to remain ignorant.
U mad boy haha
lots of bad actors also hide behind VPNs
Stop listening to corpo bullshit, you sound like a fucking moron
I mean it’s not corporate bullshit. Yes there are plenty of legitimate uses, but the majority of bad actors are over VPN’s, so hence the statement is true.
I mean it’s not corporate bullshit
Yes, it is. VPNs have nothing to do with needing to log in, nor does “”“”““bad actors””“”" have anything to do with it
They literally do. Scammers, DDoSers, phishers, bot farms, etc all use VPNs to hide their locations. VPN IPs are commonly blacklisted by providers like cloudflare, meaning that if you use them you will be subject to anti bot security like captchas and time delays. Do you think that vpns just are magically not detectable?
I think you’re missing their point.
No, I’m continuing my point after they tried to change it
It’s corporate bullshit to pretend bad actors using VPNs are the reason these things are done. Even mentioning it is tiny-brain bullshit, y’all licking that boot hard rn
Your initial “point” was just to insult them. You called them a moron. Nobody’s going to engage with that as if it’s reasonable.
Careful, he’s gonna user-tag you, next!
No shit, almost like I said that myself?
Idgaf if other people consider it reasonable when engaging with it: it’s just true
You’re missing the point, and you’re being an asshole about it. Take a chill pill, my guy.
You’re missing the point
Which is that corps will use bullshit reasons to do something annoying, but sure, pretend it’s something else
and you’re being an asshole about it
Waaaah, the guy who’s intelligence I insulted isn’t being nice to me
Take a chill pill, my guy.
Why is it every time a corpo ass-licker gets told they’re exactly that this is the response? I’m as chill as can be, y’all are just pathetic corpo lovers. If that upsets you: be better in future
You got a source for that?
One of the ways VPNs work is by having all your web traffic look like it’s coming from somewhere else, obscuring where you’re really from. They will see a different IP address than what yours actually is. If you were the only person doing this there would be no problem, but VPNs only have so many servers so companies often know what IP addresses those are. What they see is THOUSANDS of actions being taken by a single IP address, so of course it looks like bots! It makes total sense to have some verification to help against DDOS attacks and bad actors.
Is this new? Perhaps geographic testing in certain areas? I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen that on youtube. Just curious, what happens for you if you open a browser in Incognito go to youtube and without logging in to youtube, go to the video you want to watch?
In incognito or private browsing mode, you are way more likely to be blocked or forced to fill out a captcha, because the site won’t see any tracking cookies you would otherwise have.
To Google, preserving your privacy looks the same as being a bot. Using a VPN, clearing cookies, using private browsing, being signed out of a Google account, are all things that improve your privacy but look like bot activity. Google can use the excuse of blocking bots when their actual goal is tracking.
In incognito or private browsing mode, you are way more likely to be blocked or forced to fill out a captcha, because the site won’t see any tracking cookies you would otherwise have.
I use youtube almost exclusively in incognito and I never get the captcha. The only negative consequence is no suggested videos show up. It looks like this:
However, as soon as you watch even a single video, it gives suggestions based upon that. As soon as you close all your incognito windows, it wipes the slate clean and opening a new window and going back to youtube just gives you the screenshot I linked here. I don’t have a youtube “feed” and I like that. Again, zero captchas.
If you are using chrome… They deff know who u are ;)
