There’s no magazine on any instance that I see of such a community on the topic matter. To anyone not familiar, a patient gamer is someone who is immune to FOMO, doesn’t get caught up or tied up with current modern gaming. Someone who doesn’t care that they’ve beaten a game from 1996 and here it is 2024. Someone who doesn’t care that they’re still playing games 40, 20 or even 5 years ago on the present day.
I would personally say that I am. I don’t have a level of disposable income where I’m throwing down on buying games. I’ve spent 10 years between 2011 and 2021 wheeling and dealing on game sales. So much that I’ve piled on over 1,000+ games combined between GOG, Steam, Battle.net and Epic Games.
I do more often than not, play games from so long ago than I do modern games. I’m at a stage in my life where I am noticeably slowing down on gaming in general, I am also finding myself more comforted in what I play and I again can’t simply just keep buying newer games. I also don’t really care about buying newer games, the time of the present is rich with game sales all day, everyday.
There will always be a time later to buy a game that is ripened for a good sale. So I don’t have to worry at all.
I used to be very patientgamer, but my patience model changed after finding again and again that buying late meant devs had wholly moved on from a game by the time I got it, and would hardly ever do basic needed fixes, things that needed to have been talked about earlier in the project. I also noticed how some early access sales would take years for the price to go up and then back down again for what amounted to only a few dollars of savings. Savings that, as I watch games I’m interested in fail in obscurity over and over, I don’t feel quite right about strictly withholding from the few devs taking chances on such projects for me, on top of not being around to try and help the project deliver a better game to players.
So, now I do buy some games in early access or even newly released, where I can poke the dev while they are still around, and my patience includes waiting for games to get through those after-buying growing pains instead of just waiting for them to drop into the discount bins, mostly forgotten by their devs and players both.
I’m still generally more strictly price-patient on most anything larger scale, both by devs and by audience.
I see 4
One of those is dead.
One is blocked by OP’s instance.
One is hosted on an instance that more than a few people avoid.
One is nearly empty, but maybe worth joining and starting some discussion? !patientgamers@lemmy.world
Lemmy.world is blocked by beehaw as well…
Ah, so it is. I wonder when that happened. I guess .world might have outgrown beehaw’s ability to make up for spotty moderation.
The SJW one is fine, further centralization on LW is probably not desirable
how can you tell one is blocked by an instance?
I know by having seen it discussed in one or two beehaw communities, but you can look it up here:
It’s a damn shame because I really like beehaw, it feels nice and cozy but they block too many instances. If it wasn’t for that I’d use it as my main. I hope they don’t block sdf. I like being able to comment and see post from beehaw
I’m pretty sure they don’t block sdf. That’s where I am, and I’ve had several interactions with Beehaw folks while here. :)
Fun fact: Beehaw and sdf are among the few well-known instances that don’t hand their users’ traffic (all their activity on Lemmy) over to Cloudflare.
Yeah they don’t. I’m just saying I hope they don’t in the future.
I did not know that. The more I learn about sdf the more I love it.
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While I admire the ideas behind patient gamers and think it probably works out really well for some people, I personally also enjoy participating in the zeitgeist from time to time. Playing Elden Ring on launch was fantastic - you really felt like you were exploring the world alongside everyone else as you’re finding Ashes and weapons that don’t even have wiki entries yet.
The thing is you don’t actually have to look at wiki entries or any media surrounding game hype really. I have virtually no spoilers on Elden ring and I still haven’t played it.
Yeah but it’s not really the same thing years later when most people are long finished with the game. Was the same with playing BG3 around release last year, participating in conversations with friends and strangers alike about discoveries in the game as it’s happening and everyone is talking about it and playing it at the same time. I’m sure similar things happened this year with Black Myth Wukong and Silent Hill 2 Remake to some extent, though I didn’t play those.
It’s not about spoilers so much as participating in the buzz and culture and community that only really occurs around release.
@Coelacanth @ndondo yeah the games are lower priced later because their value actually does decrease. I find myself simply never playing or purchasing games that I was going to wait for a price drop on. It’s kind of like watching a championship game from years ago. Even if you personally don’t know the outcome something is lost from not being in the right moment for it. This varies more with games but I think people undersell it.
I see your perspective. I think the difference with me is that I don’t value the cultural moment very much and more so care if the game is good aside from hype. The main exception being multiplayer games. Those mostly are active when they’re new.
It feels like a natural consequence of playing a lot of indie games; there’s too many little gems you just don’t hear much about on release, or which you end up only learning about because they end up bundled with something else you were being patient about.
Though I’m not even sure how I’d apply this label to traditional roguelikes, given how many are free, and how many more seem to be in a permanent state of development/‘early access’ (Caves of Qud is hitting 1.0 in a month does break my go-to example there though).
There’s definitely an appeal with some of the better AA and ‘AAA’ games too beyond financial reasons though, given the tendency for bigger studios to launch titles full of bugs these days. (I loved Cyberpunk when I played it a couple of months after release – was lucky to not experience many bugs at all on PC – but it’s so much easier to widely recommend it since it hit 2.0.
Yes and no. It depends on the games. Usually I wait for discounts now though. I don’t have time to play every game anyways so it saves me money to wait. Even during sales, I’ll stop and ask myself if I’ll play it soon. If I don’t think I will, I usually just wait
I don’t buy a game solely because it’s the zeitgeist or whatever. A friend of mine routinely buys games that are “the new shiny” and then doesn’t finish them, or loses interest quickly. I usually wait for a sale, some patches, and/or the dlc to be bundled into a goty edition.
Some exceptions:
I bought elden ring near launch because I’m a big enjoyer of the genre, and my friend confirmed it was good. No regrets.
I bought bg3 shortly before it’s full access. I’d liked the other games larian did, and a friend told me it was good. No regrets.
Both of those were pretty light on DLC. No season pass or “goty” editions were likely.
I’m going to wait for the dragon age game to go on sale. I don’t really trust Bioware, and I don’t know if they plan to do a bunch of dlc that will get bundled up later.
I’ve been waiting for Lies of P to get cheap. The demo was just ok when I played it, but a friend tells me it’s phenomenal.
Right now I’m playing a MUD (aardwolf). It really distills some online RPG into the essence of “go kill some stuff to level up, get new skills, and kill bigger stuff”. It’s strangely satisfying.
I haven’t played Balder’s Gate 3 yet, so I’d say I’m patient.
Same! Waiting for it not to cost 80$ Canadian… If it goes on sale for half, I’ll buy it I guess
BG3 is self-published by Larian. Which sadly means you’re unlikely to see a 50% discount or above.
Well, at least not anytime in the near future.
It was 10% off at one point. So maybe 20% isn’t out of the question.
Well, at least not anytime in the near future.
I think you underestimate how patient some of us can be… 😉
Not at all. And more power to you for that.
I’m just saying it’s gonna be a while yet. 😉
Baldur’s Gate 3 is still a bit of a recent game, even if it’s a year old. Normally games like it, take about 3 - 5 years before we start seeing drastic sales.
Now games that are over 10 years old and still being 10% off? Fuck out of here with that.
I don’t know what your point is, but yes, BG3 is still a recent game.
Therefor it’s unlikely we’ll see a higher discount anytime soon.
Maybe more significantly, it’s a recent game with rave reviews that’s still making Larian money without the use of mtx and/or dlc.
Aside, kinda expecting a lot of garbage D&D games since the endlessly greedy Hasbro has seen how much money it can make them. Doubt they’ll do anything other than miss the forest for the trees in their execution of that, though.
Guess I’ll really have to work for being patient… Or I’ll just break down and buy it anyway at some point.
Meh, of all the games… BG3 shouldn’t make you feel bad for buying. It’s one of the few games in recent memory that is worth the money in full, imo.
Witcher 3 was also self published, and it came down to 70% off after a few years.
Which is an anomaly, not a rule.
But yes, we got lucky with The Witcher.
I finished it 3 times, so I’d say I’m pretty patient.
Dang, you are patient!
The only video game I play is Team Fortress 2, anywhere from 10 to 20 hours a week. So I guess I’m a patient gamer since my favorite game is over 6,000 days old.
It’s easy to be patient when you have a backlog of games to go through. Paying full price for a game that still has Denuvo or other forms of DRM just isn’t worth it for me. That said, I’m very sad Fantasian will be released with Denuvo soon after years of languishing in Apple Arcade.
I just bought the F.E.A.R bundle from steam a week ago or so, and beat the first game in the series 20 years after release. And other than a fan made .dll patch, it was great. Lacked some depth more modern titles have, but I also noticed how much effort was put into some details that were surprising for its age.
Huge steam library, RTX 3060, currently playing either 7D2D, or vanilla WOW over on Warmane (excited for the upcoming move to TBC which is around 17 years old or so).
I am just so underwhelmed by most games these days that I’ve stopped buying them. I didn’t play BG3 until someone bought it for me as a gift, and then I really enjoyed the shit out of it. It probably made it even more fun that I didn’t plan to play it and had very low expectations. So I guess that’s part of the fun for me now - waiting for a sale or free game and hoping that it’s better than I imagine it to be.
Yes and no. Some games you just cannot be patient about, as part of the whole selling point is the community in the moment. For example, the way in which hype went for Helldivers 2 pretty much necessitated that if you weren’t part of the community in the first 3 months then you missed out on a lot of “storytelling”.
This would go for most multiplayer games. Single player games though have a lot more freedom to be late to the game, so to speak ;)
Otherwise, for me personally it usually just comes down to the IP. Monster Hunter is my go-to, so it’s sort of a no-brainer for me to go for the new game as they come out barring any major issues or personal life events, I get them. I did buy Cyberpunk on release, however that was more because I wanted to see what my new 3080 could do and I was looking for a solid single player game, and I didn’t encounter nearly as many problems as other players did. But, I haven’t gotten the DLC for it because I haven’t been looking for that kind of game again yet.
Being ready for the game is another aspect I take into consideration, Dragon’s Dogma 2 was something I was pretty highly anticipating, but after hearing about the release issues and remembering what DD:DA was like to replay, I realized that I wasn’t ready for it again at release. However now it’s on sale and I’ve been out of gaming for a few months outside of small old games on my Steam Deck once in a while. I picked it up and I’ve been enjoying it.
So I think patient gaming really comes down to having the understanding of the social aspect the game is trying to sell - sometimes it’s marketing (2077) and sometimes it’s the nature of a game that’s fun to play with other people. Getting games like Phasmaphobia, Dale & Dawsons, they aren’t really going to be that fun if you’re multiple years late to the game. Similarly, if your friend just finds out about the game late, it’s just a smaller niche, being your friend group instead of random people in public lobbies, at which point you can expect to play that game a handful of times before your group drops it forever, lol.
There’s also the kind of games where you can’t wait, with the online-only ones, once the servers shut down, it’s bye-bye forever.
I’d say I’m fairly patient. It does depend on the title and how it’s handled.
If I heard Tim Cain & Leonard Boyarsky was spearheading a new Fallout, I’d be hard pressed not to buy on release.
If, however, the game is exclusive in anyway, timed or otherwise, it’s instantly blacklisted and I refuse to buy it at all. (I have an array of chips on my shoulders, I know)
But other than that specific scenario, I can wait for a good sale, no problem.
