Somewhat OK internet on the infrastructure our taxes paid for and the government handed over to Bell and Rogers, but don’t worry, they’ll stop all the other evil corporations from coming in and giving us cheaper internet.

I pay 90 ish Canadian pesos for 1gb/1gb for Bell fibre. It’s not too bad depending on your location, though that price is still too high. I’m at least making good use of it. 12tb of total transfers this month.

WTF? 25gbps? Dang we really do have shitty internet in the States.

And /48 IPv6 subnet included! As it should be!

The latency for 1Gbit/s is amazing, and i seem to get that speed. But i really don’t have the hardware for more anyways.

Median income is $23k in Thailand. $31k in US. It definitely doesn’t make up the difference.

Edit: Used Personal income for US and Household for Thailand. It actually doesn’t bring the gap significantly closer.

Although I agree that people get paid less here, I highly doubt that it costs an ISP in the US 8x more to transfer data than an ISP in Thailand.

I’m not really trying to argue that Thai internet is cheap, it’s that internet elsewhere is exorbitantly expensive.

What kind of rube works in the same country they live in? I met a lot of WFH workers when I visited Thailand, and not a single one of them was working for a company in Thailand.

I have no idea, but that idea didn’t work out all that well in the US. The gov provided funding for expansion to the countryside for all the major telecoms…and they just pocketed without actually implementing anything.

Idk but pricing in Australia is fucked. The fibre network isn’t that large to begin with afaik, and even if you do have fibre you have to pay an arm and a leg for good speeds.

E.g. I pay like $70 USD a month for 100/40.

Symmetric gigabit costs several hundred a month, they’re not intended for residential customers.

Well mobile data is very different. With fibre optic you can generally keep provisioning more cables and a single cable already carries a huge amount already.

Radio has an absolute efficiency limit for the bandwidth of a signal and we’re pretty damn close to that now.

5g uses wider bandwidth channels, with more cells closer together and uses things like beamforming. But there’s still always going to be an upper limit that is considerably lower than fibre.

This is why they likely want to discourage 5g becoming a full alternative to wired, because there’s just not the capacity to do it on the same scale.

If you really think about it, caps on mobile data are also fairly stupid

Mobile is a shared medium and can only support a certain amount of bandwidth per phone mast (in a certain area). A mobile phone network heavily relies on most users not using their data plans most of the time.

Agreed. In the past you would pay for calling and text messages and data was often unlimited at the higher tiers, but since nobody pays extra for calling and texting anymore, they’re now charging for data. Luckily they can’t charge extra for EU roaming anymore.

Data caps on landlines is something that I haven’t seen for a very long time in my EU country. The last time I had a subscription with a data cap must have been with a 56k modem, if at all. Cable and DSL might have had fair use policies back in the day (or maybe they still do, who knows), but no hard cap. Or at least not that I can remember.

Internet nowadays is way too important to have data caps, especially at home. 5G should definitely be next. Differentiate in speed all you want, but ditch the caps.

In France at least I doubt it.

The only time I remember caps on landlines was when 56k modem were still the norm. Once ADSL was rolled out there was pretty much no caps anymore.

I think the fact that we had some healthy competition for landlines from the get go in my country meant the ISPs couldn’t get that much greedy and put caps in place. So it never ended being common where I live.

And when it was old school modems, well you were already paying for the phone communications anyway when connected to the internet so it wasn’t really unlimited anyway.

Belgium has them

Data caps do exist in Europe, but they’re generally reserved for ultra cheap data plans. Something like €5 for 100mbit speeds. So you get a decent connection, but limited in traffic instead. Which makes sense.

While it’s stupid that ISPs are using their monopolies to screw consumers, the concept of data caps is not as stupid as you might think.

You’re not just paying for the connection between you and the ISP, but also all the other data links that get your internet traffic to its destination. For example, those cables across the ocean are owned third parties and they charge money for every byte that goes through. It wouldn’t be unreasonable for ISPs to pass that cost to users.

Furthermore, most links are overprovisioned in order to keep costs down. For example, if you assume that users only use 10% of their bandwidth on average, that means you can fit 10x as many people on a connection (or maybe 8x to account for peaks). This does mean that users should be discouraged from using their full bandwidth for long durations, otherwise the network operators can’t overprovision as much and have to invest more in infrastructure.

This is what I am talking about … Most countries in Europe just gives you kinda unlimited data plans… look at this crap I rarely need mobile data because I work from home but if my landline has an interruption I can barely work 1 or 2 days with that if I tweak data consumption on my work laptop.

weint auf deutsch

I’m moving to another provider next month to increase from 8GB@€30 to 15GB€25… Those are per month…

Way beyond that ;)

Data cap never made sense because ISPs pay for pipe size, not total of data. Someone using 20mbps 24/7 will use a lot more data but cause a lot less congestion than someone using 300mbps for 1hr at peak hour every day.

If their infra is undersized, they should at least not count data between midnight and 8am toward the data cap since the pipes are mostly sitting idles

deleted by creator

You shouldn’t need a business line to get reliable, fast, unlimited internet.

And a static IP, and the ability to do whatever you want with the fiber

https://0xerr0r.github.io/blocky/v0.21/ This? I’ll have to give it a try later. Pihole has a cache also though, does this do something different?

Local DNS-based adblocker. I prefer blocky, but others prefer Pi-Hole. Blocky has a feature to pre-cache commonly used domains, so additional internet performance. :)

Blocky is written in Go, which I understand is an interpreted language program, versus a compiled language program. Please correct me on this if I’m wrong.

If I’m right, then what kind of performance issues if any do you see using Blocky? I asked this assuming that an interpreted program will run slower than a compiled one.