Bud by your own definition up above you said that since Russia doesn’t tell Iran what to do with the weapons it supplies them that that isn’t a proxy.
USA doesn’t tell Ukraine what to do with weapons either. It gives them to them.
Since both wars are being helped by an opposing party to the aggressor that makes it by the literal dictionary definition a proxy war.
“It’s ok when comrades do it because we do it to help that country defend itself. When the dirty capitalist pigs do it they do it to enrich themselves” do I have that right?
The US is not just dropping off care packages and waving goodbye. Ukraine is entirely dependent on American weapons, American intelligence, and American cash. Without the US Ukraine collapses within weeks. That is the definition of a client state. The US may not micromanage every trench assault but it absolutely sets the parameters of what Ukraine can and cannot do. No ATACMS into Russian territory until Washington says so. No F-16s until Washington approves. Zelensky does not get to unilaterally escalate because the plug gets pulled if he steps out of line.
So yes. The US is fighting a proxy war against Russia using Ukraine as the proxy. This is openly admitted by no lesser person than the Secretary of State.
What’s truly amazing here is how you just keep doubling down.
Bud by your own definition up above you said that since Russia doesn’t tell Iran what to do with the weapons it supplies them that that isn’t a proxy.
USA doesn’t tell Ukraine what to do with weapons either. It gives them to them.
Since both wars are being helped by an opposing party to the aggressor that makes it by the literal dictionary definition a proxy war.
“It’s ok when comrades do it because we do it to help that country defend itself. When the dirty capitalist pigs do it they do it to enrich themselves” do I have that right?
“Amazing you don’t even know what proxy means”
here’s an idea, why don’t you go read a book instead of continuing making a clown of yourself in public here’s one https://www.sup.org/books/politics/proxy-war/excerpt/introduction-excerpt
The US is not just dropping off care packages and waving goodbye. Ukraine is entirely dependent on American weapons, American intelligence, and American cash. Without the US Ukraine collapses within weeks. That is the definition of a client state. The US may not micromanage every trench assault but it absolutely sets the parameters of what Ukraine can and cannot do. No ATACMS into Russian territory until Washington says so. No F-16s until Washington approves. Zelensky does not get to unilaterally escalate because the plug gets pulled if he steps out of line.
So yes. The US is fighting a proxy war against Russia using Ukraine as the proxy. This is openly admitted by no lesser person than the Secretary of State.
What’s truly amazing here is how you just keep doubling down.