• WoodScientist@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    5 days ago

    But we’ve also been using our own drones for more than 20 years now, longer than most other countries.

    The key is that due to our kleptocratic military industrial complex, we’re not able to produce these drones cheaply. Our military and its supply chains are built around producing very small numbers of very expensive weapons. We can’t even get Congress to pass a military right to repair. Contractors bilk the taxpayers for spare parts at a 10000% markup, and our system is too corrupt to end their thievery.

    The hard truth is that our military isn’t actually built to win wars against competent peer or near-peer opponents. It’s built to line the pockets of defense contractors. Or, to use a car analogy, Iran is producing cheap $5k k trucks. Our military is running on $100,000 low margin, high profit SUVs.

    • humanspiral@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      5 days ago

      The F35 for all purchasors, except Israel, but Including US military, requires Lockheed contractor repair services. No manual is provided with purchase.

      • WoodScientist@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        4 days ago

        And that’s why Iran could actually win this war. Iran doesn’t have to send an expeditionary force to lay siege to Washington DC to win this war. They just need to turtle in and hold out long enough for either US will or treasure to break.

        Honestly, I think Bin Ladin will go down as the greatest strategic genius of the 21st century. For the cost of a handful of lives and a few hundred grand, he tricked a superpower into burning through trillions of dollars and thousands of soldiers. All he had to do was hit the superpower where it hurt the most - its sense of pride. And now, a quarter century later, we’re still stuck in Bin Ladin’s world, never having learned a damn thing. And we can’t keep this up forever. Eventually people will simply stop wanting to buy US treasuries, and the whole debt empire falls to pieces. Simply by forcing the US to spend itself into the poorhouse, Iran can defeat the US without ever striking a single target on American soil.

    • arrow74@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      4 days ago

      Right you just made his point? Cost is relevant as the conflict continues. If the US committed everything it could likely overwhelm the government (probably leading to an Afghanistan 2), but the longer the conflict goes the scales tip in favor of Iran due to these costs.

        • arrow74@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          4 days ago

          Right this goes to attrition.

          Can this prevent the collapse of the government and a US occupation? Maybe, if it doesn’t though it will cause endless insurgency even if the US props up a friendly government.

          Then we just get Afghanistan all over again.

          The real question is can these autonomous cells continue operating their regions independently and for how long. Maintaining governance and a prolonged guerilla campaign aren’t the same.

          And you know I hope they do repel the US, but I feel like it’s crazy to dismiss it as impossible

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            4 days ago

            Look at Ukraine, Russia has not been able to collapse the government there so far, and it has an army of one and a half million fighting there, and has been bombing Ukraine for four years now. Russia has a far better situation logistically being situated right next to Ukraine and being able to transport troops and materiel by rail. Based on that, in what possible universe, does the US manage to break a country three times the size of Ukraine that’s half away across the globe from it?