Anyone have the experience registering a domain name with false personal information?

I’m trying to register one but all provider asks for name and address. Anyone have the experience providing false information? Do they really care enough to check your info manually if you don’t use your domain name for malicious purposes?

particularly interested in experiences with cloudflare

thanks a lot

EDIT: https://www.reddit.com/r/Domains/comments/1cxl7y2/when_registering_domain_name_should_i_use_my_real/

The issue with using fake details is that you risk getting your account suspended. Also, if your domain gets stolen you’ve made it impossible to retrieve because you will have to verify your information.

How can a domain get stolen?

  • 3dcadmin@lemmy.relayeasy.com
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    1 hour ago

    Never used to be any issues but recently I’ve had some real fun trying to get stolen domains back after the details were either wrong or false… you can do it, but it takes time and a heck of a load of cash

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    5 hours ago

    I recently did that and my account was banned. It was not expensive (~$1), but still felt bad

  • SavvyWolf@pawb.social
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    9 hours ago

    Most registrars have some form of whois protection now, so the only people who can easily see it are the registars themselves (and the government that controls them).

    Assuming you’re paying for a domain using real money, they’ll need your information on file as part of the online payment anyway, so using a fake id doesn’t really hide anything from them.

  • darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    7 hours ago

    I’ve had a couple of domains (including one .com) registered under a made-up name for several years, nothing interesting ever happened.

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    11 hours ago

    My domain is still set to a former address of mine and I never bothered to update it fifteen years later.

    You could provide an address for your registration… sometimes people make typos.

    If there’s truly an audit or verification it’ll be easier to explain a typo than why you said you live at “123 Eat Shit Ave”.

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    12 hours ago

    Do they really care enough to check your info manually if you don’t use your domain name for malicious purposes?

    Depends on TLD how strict the checks are, but generally you’re at least violating TOS by doing it and can lose your domain should someone actually check the info. A lot of registrars provide at least whois-security, so they’ll know your real details but won’t share them openly to anyone who asks. I assume if you get into something illegal and court orders to release the data then they’ll happily comply instead of hurting their own business.

    But if you just want to keep your real name and address out of the internet, that would be enough at least for me.

  • ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    You can give your info to the registrar and then make it anonymous to whois domain.tld searches so it’s not public. Cloudflare is the registrar I use these days because it’s a one-stop shop and used the company address but, at least in the U.S., they need your info for both credit/debit card processing. (Processing fees are cheaper the more info they provide but usually any address with the same zip code is enough.)

    If you have nefarious plans, I don’t have a good recommendation. But if it’s just about privacy, I don’t know if it’s really possible to be completely anonymous anyway. I guess you could use a gift card or something but at least in the U.S., if you own or buy a house, your address is public info already anyway. Shit, city hall will probably give you blueprints of any house.

    • happeningtofry99158@lemmy.worldOP
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      9 hours ago

      I don’t really plan on going total anonymous as I don’t have any bitcoin, it’s just that I don’t want cloudflare, a company to have access to my name and address without having to go through some Legal procedures. The domain is going to associate with my real ip anyway. For me it is good enough that my name is not in whois database or go public

      and thanks a lot for providing these info. I guess I’m just going to put in false info and argue that is typo in the future. The most I’m gonna loss is 80$

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    12 hours ago

    I’ve had 123 Sex Drive as the address on one of my domains for over a decade now. If it’s personal use stuff, not business, you’re fine to put in whatever.

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      12 hours ago

      lol that’s a relief to hear

      but it’s been a decade maybe the policy have changed nowadays?

      according to @PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat

      They definitely do check. I don’t know how detailed the checks are or how major a crime it is to use someone else’s info, but there are enough checks in place, you can’t just type in Porky Pig or made-up nonsense or anything

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        11 hours ago

        I mean, it renews every year. The worst case scenario is it’s against the TOS of the registrar and they can suspend your domain. Do with that what you will of course. Also, I was doing that with another domain but fixed it when I moved it to porkbun with their free anonymity service. I wasn’t going to pay domain.com’s ridiculous fees for it.

  • anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz
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    12 hours ago

    Might wanna look at njal.la
    Unless you’re planning on distributing cp or anything like that it should give you the layer of privacy you want.

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        4 hours ago

        I mean that’s a black hat hacking forum. That alone would make me question what they were doing with their domains x)

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        11 hours ago
        • People buy njalla domain.
        • Start to do illegal stuff on domain.
        • Njalla gets legal complaint.
        • Since njalla doesnt know your personal info, all they can do is shut down the domain
        • People cry that they were “scammed” by njalla for “no reason”
        • Sometimes in these kind of posts, when you pry long enough they admit to doing something illegal (which they think is fine, like pirated media sharing).

        I have my personal website domain and some selfhosted stuff on subdomains on a njalla for over 5 years. Never had any issues cause none of what I do is illegal.

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      11 hours ago

      Someone compromising your account and transferring the domain away, the register being compromised, someone sending you a fake domain renewal notice (this one I have seen happen)

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        11 hours ago

        I have 6 domain renewal notices sitting in my Spam folder now.

        Another recent one has been notices supposedly from my email provider saying it’s time to renew. That one almost got me.

        I really wish GPG signing of emails had actually taken off. Would have solved this type of problem completely.

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        9 hours ago

        thanks a lot!

        That means everyone could use whois to look up the name and address associated with a certain domain if no privacy protection is provided by the provider right?

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    11 hours ago

    Using fake information is mandatory otherwise you’ll get doxed - the domain ownership is public information, including your full name, physical address, email address and phone number. If someone knows you own the domain, they can look it up using whois.

    I got death threats that way, one time.