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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 11 months ago

New Polling Shows Significant Ukrainian Support for Diplomacy to End the War

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New Polling Shows Significant Ukrainian Support for Diplomacy to End the War

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to World News@lemmy.mlEnglish · 11 months ago
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There is more dissent from the Zelensky government’s war aims than may appear.
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    The proof is in the fact that the regime literally cancelled elections, banned opposition parties, and free media.

    Are you suggesting that Ukraine can not ever hold free elections after a coup, but Donbas can while under armed invasion of a foreign country?

    Donbas has had election long before it INVITED Russia to intervene on its behalf. The same way breakaway regions of Yugoslavia invited NATO to intervene.

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      I don’t remember any elections before Russian troops arrived (aka the little green men). When exactly were these elections held?

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        A great way to say that you didn’t pay any attention to Donbas for the past decade.

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          A great way not answering my question. When was this election held on Donbas that resulted in the invitation of Russian troops?

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            Is google blocked at your troll farm?

            https://tass.com/politics/1514667

            https://sputnikglobe.com/20220223/dpr-lpr-ask-putins-assistance-to-repel-aggression-of-ukrainian-forces---kremlin-1093313077.html

            https://www.donbass-insider.com/2022/10/02/signature-of-treaties-accepting-the-dpr-lpr-and-zaporozhye-kherson-oblasts-as-part-of-russia/

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              The very first sentence in thr very first source says the referendum was held in September 2022, while Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022. If my math checks out, September comes after February. Or are you referring to some other referendum? Could you be more specific?

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                DPR and LPR have been autonomous since 2014, the heads of the republics made a formal request for assistance from Russia in February after Russia recognized their independence https://www.rt.com/russia/550394-donbass-republics-military-help-putin/

                This was intentionally modelled on the precedent NATO set on Yugoslavia where NATO recognized the independence of the breakaway regions and then had them invite NATO for assistance. Russia is just following the legal precedent set by the rules based order we keep hearing about.

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                  I quote yourself:

                  Donbas has had election long before it INVITED Russia to intervene on its behalf.

                  So again, when was this election held? It’s a simple question. I’m not sure why you are avoiding answering it, and instead providing sources about an election held in 2022.

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                    Yes, Donbas has been autonomous and held elections since 2014. These elections have been held regularly. I’m not avoiding answering any of your questions here. You’re just doing trolling.

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