It only seems even when you ignore the fact that Russia is winning the war.
Do you have a source for that? My understanding was hat Putin was allowed to pull back his troops, ending the war, without asking for permission from Ukraine? Or is it China he needs permission from? I’m confused. Who exactly is bossing Putin around saying he can’t withdraw?
That’s not what happened. Russia pulled back troops as part of Istanbul negotiations as a show of good faith. You do sound very confused indeed, which is likely why you keep making incoherent statements here. Perhaps spend a bit of time learning about the subject first?
What does the fact that Russia is winning have to do with anything? If anything, it would mean it’s even easier to end the war by withdrawing as they would not need to be worried about a counterinvasion?
Putin could end the war tomorrow. He chooses not to. Maybe he chooses not to, because he thinks he is winning? It does not matter. What matters is that he chooses not to end it, killing millions.
If you don’t understand what Russia winning militarily has to do with anything there’s really no point continuing the discussion.
Putin could end the war tomorrow. He chooses not to. Maybe he chooses not to, because he thinks he is winning? It does not matter. What matters is that he chooses not to end it, killing millions.
The west continues to use Ukraine as a proxy to try and weaken Russia, killing millions. The west could stop doing this any time, yet chooses not to.
If the west stopped supporting Ukraine, Ukraine would continue to fight for some time still. And after a capitulation there would likely ne purges killing still more Ukrainians.
So no, Ukraine could not end the killings tomorrow. Putin could. He chooses not to. He chooses the death of millions of Russians and Ukrainians. Because he truly does not care.
If the west stopped supporting Ukraine, Ukraine would continue to fight for some time still.
The war would be over immediately.
And after a capitulation there would likely ne purges killing still more Ukrainians.
There wouldn’t.
So no, Ukraine could not end the killings tomorrow. Putin could. He chooses not to. He chooses the death of millions of Russians and Ukrainians. Because he truly does not care.
Yes it could, but you will never accept the reality so the war will keep going and people will keep dying. The blood is on the hands of war mongers such as yourself. People like you are what makes this war possible.
Again, Putin is the only one who can guatanteed end this. You ignore that.
I’ve addressed this repeatedly, and you’re the one ignoring what you’re being told because it doesn’t fit with your narrative.
The west abandoning Ukraine in no way guarantees that Russia stops killing Ukrainians, or Ukrainians stop killing Russians.
Ensuring that more Ukrainians die without changing the outcome of the war is not helping Ukrainians.
The only person who can end this within a day, Putin, chooses not to, and instead chooses the deaths of millions.
You keep repeating this, but it’s a blatantly false statement as we both know.
You keep mentioning how the west could end this, but are completely silent about the fact that so could Putin, and with much less bloodshed.
Both Russia and the west have exact same power to stop the war immediately. Russia has repeatedly made proposals to stop the war that the west rejected. The fact that you refuse to acknowledge this shows that you’re not arguing in good faith.
You are contradicting yourself. Can russia stop the war immediately, or do they need the permission of the west to do so? Both can’t be true simultaneously
I’m not contradicting myself. The west can stop the war immediately, and Ukraine needs permission from the west to do so. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia where NATO is using Ukraine to do the fighting.
It only seems even when you ignore the fact that Russia is winning the war.
That’s not what happened. Russia pulled back troops as part of Istanbul negotiations as a show of good faith. You do sound very confused indeed, which is likely why you keep making incoherent statements here. Perhaps spend a bit of time learning about the subject first?
What does the fact that Russia is winning have to do with anything? If anything, it would mean it’s even easier to end the war by withdrawing as they would not need to be worried about a counterinvasion?
Putin could end the war tomorrow. He chooses not to. Maybe he chooses not to, because he thinks he is winning? It does not matter. What matters is that he chooses not to end it, killing millions.
If you don’t understand what Russia winning militarily has to do with anything there’s really no point continuing the discussion.
The west continues to use Ukraine as a proxy to try and weaken Russia, killing millions. The west could stop doing this any time, yet chooses not to.
If the west stopped supporting Ukraine, Ukraine would continue to fight for some time still. And after a capitulation there would likely ne purges killing still more Ukrainians.
So no, Ukraine could not end the killings tomorrow. Putin could. He chooses not to. He chooses the death of millions of Russians and Ukrainians. Because he truly does not care.
The war would be over immediately.
There wouldn’t.
Yes it could, but you will never accept the reality so the war will keep going and people will keep dying. The blood is on the hands of war mongers such as yourself. People like you are what makes this war possible.
Again, Putin is the only one who can guatanteed end this. You ignore that.
The west abandoning Ukraine in no way guarantees that Russia stops killing Ukrainians, or Ukrainians stop killing Russians.
Is it likely that Ukraine capitulates without Western support? Yes. Is it likely to happen the next day? No. Id it guaranteed to happen at all? No.
Is it likely that Russia stops killing Ukrainians? Yes. Is it likely to stop the next day? No.
The only person who can end this within a day, Putin, chooses not to, and instead chooses the deaths of millions.
You keep mentioning how the west could end this, but are completely silent about the fact that so could Putin, and with much less bloodshed.
I’ve addressed this repeatedly, and you’re the one ignoring what you’re being told because it doesn’t fit with your narrative.
Ensuring that more Ukrainians die without changing the outcome of the war is not helping Ukrainians.
You keep repeating this, but it’s a blatantly false statement as we both know.
Both Russia and the west have exact same power to stop the war immediately. Russia has repeatedly made proposals to stop the war that the west rejected. The fact that you refuse to acknowledge this shows that you’re not arguing in good faith.
You are contradicting yourself. Can russia stop the war immediately, or do they need the permission of the west to do so? Both can’t be true simultaneously
I’m not contradicting myself. The west can stop the war immediately, and Ukraine needs permission from the west to do so. This is a proxy war between NATO and Russia where NATO is using Ukraine to do the fighting.