• MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      232·
      6 months ago

      I haven’t used any of the 3, but from a look over them superfile looks a lot more user friendly and has a nicer overall look.

      Edit; the install process is rough though, complains about missing glibc but searching for that package in apt doesn’t show anything promising. It also seems to require some kind of third party font that isn’t included? I gave up lol that’s too much for me to deal with.

      • moog@lemm.ee
        20·
        6 months ago

        Glibc is the gnu c library. You wouldn’t just download that from apt. I’m surprised your Linux distro doesn’t already have that installed.

        • MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          92·
          6 months ago

          It’s definitely a big learning curve with how complex installing things on linux is haha, I’m still used to windows just open the exe installer and that’s it.

          • moog@lemm.ee
            7·
            6 months ago

            Yeah I hear that. I will say aptitude made my life a lot easier in terms of installing things with its recommended fixes. Also good software documentation should have a “Getting Started” section that gives you step by step instructions for each OS/Distro of how to install it. If it doesn’t… Well maybe that software isn’t worth installing anyway 🤷‍♂️

            • MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
              5·
              6 months ago

              I mean there’s that, but it’s a lot of work for a dev too.

              I would rather Linux just be able to detect what’s missing and install it for me. In the case of a lot of missing components, what it says is missing will be named completely different from the package you need to install which makes it really hard.

              It was always nice with windows installers because they would come with the needed components, or windows would just prompt to install them automatically.

              I guess that’s essentially what Flatpak solves!

              • Shareni@programming.dev
                3·
                6 months ago

                I would rather Linux just be able to detect what’s missing and install it for me. In the case of a lot of missing components, what it says is missing will be named completely different from the package you need to install which makes it really hard.

                That does happen, but Linux doesn’t have anything to do with installing packages, your package manager does. If this package was installed through apt for example, it would also download all of the dependencies. But this package is using a makefile to build and install, therefore it has nothing to do with your package manager.

                Tldr: use the package manager, and don’t use DIY packages if you don’t want to DIY

                Additional package managers like flatpak and nix solve different issues:

                • dependency mismatch: let’s say libreoffice and this package require a different version of glibc -> flatpak downloads both versions and symlinks them in a different location in order for each package to have the correct version while not impacting your system and the glibc your DE is using

                • newer packages: Debian freezes packages for 2+ years, flatpak gives you a fresh version

                • easier packaging for developers: you can package for flatpak instead of having to maintain packages for every popular package manager and distro

              • moog@lemm.ee
                3·
                6 months ago

                That’s what aptitude does. It says “these things are dependencies that are missing. Do you want to install them?” And you can say yes, no, or ask it to try to find a different fix. And idk what you mean by that’s a lot of work. If a dev can’t be bothered to tell people how to install their program then idk how they expect people to use their software.

              • Successful_Try543@feddit.de
                2·
                6 months ago

                There are two specific problems I see here for the mentioned binaries.

                1. The software is packaged as a generic archive, no format like rpm or deb the system package manager could/does handle. Thus, the package manager of your system does neither know that you’ve installed this binary nor what it depends on. The developer could have at least mentioned on which exact system the Linux binaries are supposed to work, e.g. Ubuntu 22.04, so that the user knows, that they might have issues running it on a different system.
                2. The developer could have built and packed it in a way that it can be installed by the package manager of a specific distribution. Launchpad or OBS are made for this purpose. The other option, wrapping it as a flatpak, works too, but may bloat the system of the user as different versions of the same libraries are installed (system generic + flatpak version).

                Nonetheless, as a Linux user, you are encouraged to build directly from source.

                • MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                  2·
                  6 months ago

                  Nonetheless, as a Linux user, you are encouraged to build directly from source.

                  Yeah screw that lol, I want my OS to just work and be easy to use with minimal fuss.

        • Successful_Try543@feddit.de
          7·
          6 months ago

          It depends on the distro which release is installed and available. So certainly the problem is, the required and installed glibc library do not match.

      • Farid@startrek.website
        81·
        6 months ago

        I had to install Golang and build it myself to make it work with my version of glibc. But in the end the themes aren’t rendered properly. In other words, proper Linux experience.

    • PlexSheep@infosec.pub
      3·
      6 months ago

      Good to know. How do you test if a program makes network connections? Do you just open Wireshark and look at outgoing traffic?

    • lemmyreader@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
      410·
      6 months ago

      Did you check what the connections are about ? Maybe it is only checking for new updates ?

      • tsonfeir@lemm.ee
        391·
        6 months ago

        It wanted to download a zip file. Apparently it was a theme. But, I’m not letting a local file manager talk to the internet randomly. If I want to update it, I’ll update it myself. Or, at least provide an option to enable it on first run.

        Uninstalled.

          • Azzk1kr@feddit.nlEnglish
            81·
            6 months ago

            Because it’s a statically compiled binary, it tends to grow the size of the binary. Increases portability though.

      • thingsiplay@beehaw.org
        92·
        6 months ago

        Did you mean 1MB? With correct settings, you get under 1MB Rust binaries and with even more compression using upx it gets to 300KB, probably less for much simpler applications. Rust applications aren’t that big of a deal as people make it to be; within reasons off course.

        • lemmyvore@feddit.nlEnglish
          4·
          6 months ago

          The one issue I have with Rust apps is how much memory they need to compile (depending on the app ofc). I could not install Pika Backup from AUR on a laptop with 4 GB of RAM for instance because the compilation would run out of memory. It’s one case where I was glad flatpak is an option.

    • Nik282000@lemmy.ca
      10·
      6 months ago

      I love mc for its sftp/ssh capabilities. It makes it so much easier to do remote admin/support.

      • ristoril_zip@lemmy.zipEnglish
        1·
        6 months ago

        Every time I install Windows the first thing I download is total commander. I can’t function without it.

  • mub@lemmy.ml
    8·
    6 months ago

    Linux user. Installs fancy gui. Uses terminal for file management.

    /Use your own meme format.