

Of course it’s not new new, the CPU is 10 years old. But who would think that it is?
Of course it’s not new new, the CPU is 10 years old. But who would think that it is?
Ok, I think I now understand the point of this thread. The implication is that some people might assume that these are brand new machines that will have software support for years to come. Even though, that’s confusing to me, as no new machine with those specs costs only 200 Euros. Like, that CPU alone, if used, cost 40-60 Euros. But IMO it’s still a stretch to call this a scam, as they are selling what they are selling. Can these machines run W11 right now? Yes. If the buyer expects something else for that price, it’s on them. The target audience could still be tech-savvy ppl who just need an older machine for simple stuff and W11 is pre-installed there just for convenience.
What does it matter that Microsoft considers it piracy? If they got the keys for cheap somewhere, it’s a real licensed version anyway and will work fine.
I can order retro emulation handhelds from China and it will arrive with 1000s of ROMs, which is literal piracy, but that doesn’t make it a scam.
Not officially, but I have, in the past, installed W11 on a computer from 2010. And it worked fine, all things considered.
But are you certain they aren’t new and this is a scam? I’m interested to know how you determined those are used.
Btw, where does it say “Nuovo”? I can’t find it. Is it not on the screenshot?
But “e-waste” means something so outadet that it’s useless. Or unrepairable. Those computers are perfectly fine for 80% of users.
And are they explicitly saying that these are new? While you know for sure it’s heavily used equipment?
Do you mean you wouldn’t consider it a scam if it has W10 preinstalled instead? How much is MS Office anyway? I know there are $5 W11 keys all over the place.
That seems like an entirely different problem from the one being discussed.
Could you explain why you consider these overpriced/scam? If those use new parts and come with warranty, at least the top one, seems fine. Can you do a breakdown of what it should cost?
My Windows PC has i5-6500 in it and I definitely don’t consider it e-waste.
I was confused about the amount of upvotes, until I saw this was on .ml
Do you mean that the app should render them in a special way? My Voyager isn’t doing anything.
Are there actually people complaining that she’s ugly…? She literally looks like a model, just with some scars.
PipeWire is a server and user space API to deal with multimedia pipelines. This includes:
- Making available sources of video (such as from a capture devices or application provided streams) and multiplexing this with clients.
- Accessing sources of video for consumption.
- Generating graphs for audio and video processing.
Nodes in the graph can be implemented as separate processes, communicating with sockets and exchanging multimedia content using fd passing.
Radical approach, because I might miss the post with interesting comments, and people often provide alternative links or straight up embed summaries.
Oh you mean that the number 256 overflows into 0 in 8-bit range. My joke was leaning more into the idea that when you use all 256 possible bit combinations (1111 1111
), it can represent -1 in signed integer formats. Even though 255 is the highest number you can directly represent, there are still 256 total combinations, including zero, so IMO, the joke works.
I’m not sure what you’re implying with this. But how did you dig this up anyway?
Carcinization.
I don’t remember if I tried Plex/Jellyfin, but I’ll check vaapi thingy when I use it next time. In Firefox settings, right? It’s still weird that it works fine in Windows Firefox, but not Linux Firefox.
Here’s an anecdote. Recently, I got a 14yo (I believe) MSI MS-AC73 AIO (i3-2120, 4GB DDR3, 120GB SSD), mostly to use as a 1080p display, but it had a free PC inside as a bonus. For shits and giggles I started installing different OSes on it. First was XP. finding drivers was a pain but doable, since the machine is old af. But no matter what I did, Intel GPU control panel didn’t want to center 3:4 games properly.
Since it wasn’t working so well, I decided to go the opposite side of the spectrum and install W11, to see how horrible it would be. After many hours of convincing W11 to install on this machine (which is surprisingly not Copilot+ compliant), I finally got it to boot with a local account, with all devices recognized (including the touch screen). MFW when it runs pretty decently all things considered. I went ahead and removed all the extra crap using CTT Debloater. Played a couple retro PC games, installed FF and watched some YT, which manages to run at 1080p without dropped frames.
Now, of course, I decided to dualboot Linux, cause duh. Picked the latest Manjaro (KDE), hoping it will handle games better in case I try anything (might be an uneducated choice). Install is much easier, of course, but everything also works out of the box. My disappointment when same FF massively drops frames on YT. Touch controls technically work, but it doesn’t show the touch locations and other minor issues.
In the end, I mostly use the neutered W11 (too lazy to downgrade to W10), cause it plays videos much better and W95-98 games. But if somebody can tell me how to fix Linux video playback issues, that would be great, as I want to make it my Linux daily driver.
But “new” in the context of shopping just means “not used”, not that it was released in the past year or two.
And as I mentioned in another reply, they are not advertising anything false if those components are actually unused. If the buyer expects some band new, recently released machine with those specs, it’s on them. When you’re buying electronics, some minimal amount of research is required, or you outsource it to your family/friends.