- cross-posted to:
- foss@beehaw.org
- selfhost@lemmy.ml
- cross-posted to:
- foss@beehaw.org
- selfhost@lemmy.ml
cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/1386745
Anytype has finally followed through on their promise and open sourced their repositories. Self hosting is now possible though there is no docker container available.
This is a major step forward for all PKMS and I wholeheartedly congratulate them.
btw Anytype is free, even their included sync service, which is the best of any offline-first style PKMS I have experienced. Anytype is top 3 PKMS for me, followed by Logseq and SiYuan. They’re in good company and now it’s only going to improve!
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I just tested it and it looks amazing. I wonder if there are any templates for a Bullet Journal. This software is insane feature-wise, a lot of things to play with.
I’d definitely suggest Logseq over Anytype for a bullet journal type use case - and the good news is since they’re both free you can still use anytype for anything else. I’m currently a logseq backer and it’s my main, but I discovered SiYuan recently and it’s absolutely fantastic as well. I had been using Anytype before I switched to logseq but it lacks transclusion.
IMO Anytype is better for managing projects while Logseq is better for your typical PKMS, creating a knowledge base and journaling. In terms of task management, logseq edges out anytype though they both have pros and cons, but nothing you can’t work around.
Wow, last time I checked logseq it was not that good. I hope they introduce their Logseq Sync eventually.
I didn’t like it the first time I used it either. I’m a backer to get access to the sync beta. I would say that anytype’s sync is far superior - I can type stuff on two different devices in the same line and it very easily handles the multiple inputs nearly simultaneously. Logseq doesn’t do such a good job - there’s a lot of work to do there. SiYuan is the worst of all for syncing and also the most expensive.
It looks interesting as an app, but in context of self-hosting there are couple of speed bumps:
- The server side is quite complicated. (compared to Joplin for example) It’s multiple services and it also needs Mongo, Redis and S3. Makes sense for them to do it this way to be able to scale up, but for few users hosted locally it’s quite a lot of moving parts.
- You need to compile client apps to self-host. This effectively kills this as an option on iOS.
Oof yeah if you can’t use their app store client with a selfhosted instance then that’s a major barrier. You’d have to use xcode to build and sideload it, so yeah effectively killing ios. I think that’ll come up in the self hosting discussion as that’s a pretty major omission. I assume that will be easy enough to remedy in the near future
To be fair, the onboarding experience in the app is impressively good. It’s extremely straightforward with no unnecessary buttons or steps. So I kind of see why they might be hesitant to add complexity by supporting self-hosted backend as an option.
What’s the weird fetish with open source projects deliberately choosing closed source corporate-hosted proprietary public Git hosting sites?
I think it’s just the default that people are used to. It has some good features as well but I think it’s really just because it’s the most well known.
Those sites are often more fit for purpose. And more familiar to users.
@Dirk @MonkCanatella yeah… It’s a fetish. Not a weird thing to say at all.
Wow, thank you for this! AT will become my next PKMS, their features plan are dope and in line with their philosophy about freedom and humanity. Never thought PKMS reach the deep understanding as this…
Just because source is available does not mean it’s an open source license. It’s still proprietary, free to use for non-commercial use only.
Is there a description of what this is and what it is for for dumdums? I don’t really get what it is from the website.
It’s a more advanced note taking app, like apple notes, logseq, obsidian, notion, etc. aka PKMS (Personal Knowledge Management System).
It’s a direct competitor to Notion, but also other knowledge management apps (Obsidian, Evernote, etc.)
It’s a note taking app. A bit like logseq but 100% open source.
I just wish collaboration wasn’t a year away.
Is logseq not open source?
logseq is open source, but not their sync backend. You can use syncthing, but I would prefer that the native sync would be open.
Interesting, didn’t know that. Thank you!
Just to clarify the entire Logseq app is open source including the sync mechanism, the server backend to receive the sync endpoint and store the data isn’t. I use Syncthing (FOSS and cross platform) to sync noted between my devices.