Because data do not care about sides. If you have different sources from different nations and different entities providing corroborating evidences (satellite images from private companies, survivors interviews from independent journalists, radio interception, videos from front line soldiers) and have thousand of independent lawyers, analysts, activists from multiple nations creating reports of thousand of pages that all agree despite being from non aligned countries and no profit, then there is weight on what is written in those reports.

If the US lies very often and the US says that Russia is committing genocide that does not mean that Russia is not committing genocide. This just means that the US does not lie all the time. If Russia tell the truth sometimes does not mean they do not lie very often.

Explain to me why you feel the need to pic side with a corrupt government when there is no need to do that.

EDIT: just to further clarify: I do not believe Russia is committing genocide because the US said so. I believe it because reliable independent data says so. If the US government agrees with data because it is convenient for them to say so, I do not care. The US agreeing with reality does not change reality. Believing Russia telling that Russia is not committing crimes in their invasion of Ukraine is stupid and naive.

Both sides are lying! How is this so hard for you to understand. Russia is committing genocide. Israel is committing genocide. Russia was founded on genocide and conquest. The list of war crimes Russia is committing is ever growing, clear as day, documented. We have first hand testimony, videos, independent journalists reporting on the front every day. How is it that you feel like they are telling the truth on their invasion of another country. Why do you trust the government that lies every day and contradict itself continuously? I do not trust Donald Trump. Why would you trust Putin? They are but the same shit but somewhat you feel like one deserve your trust just because sono quora post made by some propaganda man.

Which of us do you think is *more likely* to be operating off of faith and partisanship?

You are more likely, as you believe I believe in thing I made no claim on. You just add a label on me based on perceived “affiliation”. This is the essence of partisanship. US can support genocide while Russia does the same. The fact you fell the need to pick a side is direct demonstration of partisanship.

I am frustrated that people around the world suffer because of you and people like you justifying war criminals with baseless foundations

If an anonymous post on a blog has the same weight as independent organizations across multiple nations, multiple journalists, military analysts from multiple countries and photographic and videographic proofs, then nothing can be proven and you believe in what you want to be true. You are basing your ideas on faith and partisanship.

The UN has not abandoned any accusation on the Bucha massacre. Proof is extensive, sources independently verified. I have made no claim on Uygur as I am not knowledgeable enough to discuss it.

You deny Bucha with anonymous quora post.

I use:

United Nation reports: https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2022/12/un-report-details-summary-executions-civilians-russian-troops-northern

Human Rights watch: https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/04/21/ukraine-russian-forces-trail-death-bucha

Amnesty international: https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/eur50/5561/2022/en/

Bucha denial is the same as holocaust denial. You are doing real damage and cause lot of suffering for innocent people by justifying war criminals. I do not know how can you disconnect so much from reality to find this acceptable

Correct, it was your comment with link. What is making it a thought terminating cliche? Your links are not a reliable source of information. You inform yourself using false data and claim it as reality. How can you make a proper determination on what is real using such sources?

You reply to the international criminal court and the Ukrainian state with random blog as if your information are somewhat more reliable. Nothing is debunked we have thousands of names and first hand testimony. This is ridiculous; explain to me what is the process you are using to establish truth. It is definitely flawed

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Honestly, I could list hundreds of documented instances of Russia genocide in Ukraine, with state sponsored declarations of explicit genocide intent. The evidence is so well documented and overwhelming that I can only presume a biased dishonest stance from you.

Making discussing this with you a waste of time.

EDIT: making a small list to shut down deniers. I will not waste more time than this on something so easy to research. According to UN genocide convention:

1. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group (Article II, Section e): the International Criminal Court (ICC) issued arrest warrants for Russian President Vladimir Putin and Maria Lvova-Belova (Russia’s Commissioner for Children’s Rights). Ukraine has documented the forced deportation of over 19,000 children to Russia or Russian-occupied territories, where they are frequently subjected to “Russification” processes, given Russian citizenship, and placed with Russian families.
2. Killing members of the group & Causing serious bodily or mental harm (Article II, Sections a & b): The UN Commission of Inquiry and various human rights groups have extensively documented mass executions, systematic torture, and sexual violence in previously occupied areas such as Bucha, Izyum, and Kherson.
3. State promoted deletion of Ukrainian culture and identity: Vladimir Putin: In his July 2021 essay, “On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians,” Putin laid the ideological groundwork for the invasion by explicitly denying the existence of a distinct Ukrainian nation, arguing that Ukrainians and Russians are “one people” and that a sovereign Ukraine is an artificial construct entirely created by foreign powers. Dmitry Medvedev (Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of Russia): Medvedev has repeatedly used eliminationist rhetoric on his official Telegram channel. He has referred to Ukraine as a “fake” and “cancerous” state, stated that “deep Ukrainianism… is one big fake,” and declared that a sovereign Ukraine has no right to exist and must be entirely absorbed or destroyed. Maria Lvova-Belova: In public broadcasts, she has openly discussed the systematic removal of Ukrainian children and their “integration” into Russian society. She has spoken about teaching Ukrainian children to love Russia, effectively admitting to the intent to erase their previous national identity.

This is 100% genocide, and if you negate that you live in a different reality than me. On top of that, Russia is currently engaging in a war of conquest. Russia is a country build on genocide and conquest.

Iran and china supply Russia against Ukraine. Is the genocide done by Israel bad but the one done by Russia fine?

Iran, china, India does the same with weapon exports. If you are industrialized you sell weapons.

Europe is not a threat to the world. The US, and in smaller part the UK and France probably are. I do not think anybody needs to worry about Denmark or Germany invading their country. On the contrary, the continuous threats to European security are pushing for European rearmament and military unification.