

The initial comment I made was that his election being fair and democratic was debatable, which is true. Then everybody went apeshit trying to defend him with whataboutisms. That’s the problem.


The initial comment I made was that his election being fair and democratic was debatable, which is true. Then everybody went apeshit trying to defend him with whataboutisms. That’s the problem.


Well we all know about the US gouvernent and their crimes.
But why can’t anybody here acknowledge that Maduro was a crook himself? He had to go, but he rigged the system against it.
I mean if we were talking about Chavez, that guy had his people’s well being at heart. And I have a lot of respect for that man.
But Maduro I can’t defend. And it seems to me like the people here are defending him, and argue and downvote in bad faith. If a leader is a bad person, no matter where they stand on the political spectrum, they shouldn’t be defended from any criticism.


Well, yeah. But one doesn’t cancel the other.
EDIT: This is nothing more than whataboutism. “What about Trump?” Yeah I know Trump is a garbage of a human being. If you can even all him human at this point. Him, the people around him and the entire American government have done so much harm to humanity. They’re worst only next to Israel, whose people make the worst fictional monsters look like little ballerinas.
But that doesn’t cancel the fact Maduro was an asshole corrupt crooked motherfucker who inflicted a lot of pain on the people of his country.
Do I condone him being kidnapped like this? Hell no. That’s bullshit. America can fuck off.


To be fair, I don’t exactly trust the other sources that say he didn’t receive the majority of the votes.
That being said, that doesn’t change the fact he was corrupt and was living in luxury and was well fed while Venezuelans were hungry and poor.
The only thing I admire about him is sticking up to the US, being an economic partner to Cuba and standing in solidarity with Palestinians.


“Democratically elected” that’s debatable.


Well… he wasn’t exactly innocent.
I don’t condone what happened, but Maduro was not a great man either.
Well we’re on the same page. I don’t know about the others.