Their brows will be so furrowed

Yeah by replying I think I’m giving the false impression of taking you seriously, person whi thinks things that happen are impossible.

Hmm I never said that.

This you?

You drive door to door leaving flyers. […] Why do you think municipal or county staff can’t drive

Anyway…

Hey there champ, those are different words meaning different things. Love this strategy of yours known as, “pretend to be less literate than a gradeschooler”, though.

You’re talking about what Amazon and USPS can do. They can do it (Amazon not every home in a given area) because they’re equipped to. Saying that the water company should be able to cover a town with flyers because USPS goes door to door is about as logical as saying USPS should fix a water main because the water company does it.

Okay so there’s this thing called paying for goods and services. I know, difficult concept, but stick with me. Companies and agencies with liabolities write things called “contracts” or “budgets” where they pay others to handle needs for goods and services. Such as paying USPS to knock on doors like they often will for packages, leaving behind a flyer. Crazy, I know. There are already municipalities that use Amazon delivery drivers for services due to neoliberal austerity, but that is an actual thing that happens.

These are just some competent, simple options. They could also use a slew of government workers, contractors, hell they could be lazy asses and supplement with day laborers. The sky’s the limit.

Now, if the law requires something that will always change the calculus but that doesn’t seem to be the case here

Oh? How does it change the calculus?

Ok, where do you get those 50 people?

There are places that regularly do this. Where do you think they get enough people to visit and/or mail every address? Who works at the post office? Cops? First responders? Utility workers? Social workers? Delivery drivers?

This is not just a failure of imagination, it is trying to pretend this kind of operation doesn’t already happen every day right where you live.

Do you have 50 people sitting around on-call 24/7/365 just in case they need to go knock on everyone’s door?

Why would they need to?

Are you taking them off of other jobs to go do this? If this happens at 3AM on a holiday weekend, there’s probably a pretty good reason those other people are already on the clock, like maybe fixing whatever issue is causing the advisory.

Yes you are taking people off of other jobs to do this. Why would they all be working on the problem that caused the boil notice? Do you think your mailman is cranking on water mains?

Are we relying on volunteers? How are we going to get ahold of them to let them know, let alone guarantee that they’re actually going to show up.

If you wanted to use volunteers you would do it by having a group ready to meet up, get trained, and then do these kinds of tasks when needed. You would get their phone numbers in advance and then call around to get together a group. This is how all civil volunteer groups work. Search and rescue. Emergency volunteer firefighters. This is an everyday thing and very basic. Why imply it’s impractical?

We gonna mobilize the national guard to do it? How long is that gonna take to get going?

The governor could do that, yes. They mobilize very quickly, they do evacuations for natural disasters. They train for this kind of logistics thing. But sending notice in the mail would be much cheaper.

Maybe we’ll just press-gang the first 50 people we can get our hands on to do it. What could possibly go wrong?

“What about [stupid thing]? You’re so dumb for thinking the thing I just made up.”

But let’s say getting the people is a solved problem. How are they getting around? Not every area is easily walkable.

The US is car-dependent. You would use cars. Those owned by the authority, municipalities, owned by USPS, cop cars, etc. How do you think your mail works? Purely pedestrian?

Do we have 50 municipal cars on standby for them to use?

For an area with 55,000 people? Yes you have 50 vehicles that could be used, though you don’t need 50 because you can do 2-3 per car if you’re doing the door knocking strategy.

And yes most municipal vehicles are “on standby”. Tons sit in parking lots all day. Ask your county about their staff vehicles and the reservation process.

Are we going to have additional people driving them around to the needed areas in vans?

Why would they need to?

Are they using their personal vehicles and will need to be compensated for gas and mileage (not to mention probably an insurance nightmare for those people using personal vehicles for non-personal use)

Could be. Depends on exactly how incompetent the water authority is. As we can see, publishing info in the internet equivalent of a dark corner in a broom closet is a strategy they actually went with.

They are liable for this and can opt for as expensive snd dumb or cheap and efficient of a method they’d like.

Naw, I think “but we have cars” was silly, not clever (funny how you dropped that pretty quickly).

Hmm I never said that. You’d rather make stuff up than acknowledge an everyday thing is actually entirely feasible?

I think “but you can get people and a plan immediately while also fixing the problem” is silly, not clevet (admittedly places that require certain notices will also have a plan to implement it as required by law, not I’m thinking about wherever OP is which I’m assuming doesn’t have that).

Thanks for explaining how your idea that this can only be done ad hoc is actually dumb, refuting your own point!

I think comparing with organizations that need large coverage for their daily operations (not necessarily 100% of homes in a day, mind you) is silly, not clever.

What are you even talking about? Use your words.

Feel free to move on.

But your bad faith obstinance is funny. You can go ahead and ignore my advice and embarrass yourself as much as you’d like.

This is literally something that already happens every day for junk mailers and junk from Amazon and you’re trying to die on the hill of saying it’s basically impossible. There are regions where direct verbal or written notice is required by law. These are things that happen and happen efficiently and in very boring ways, despite your continued attempts to argue about this from the position of, “nuh-uh it’s too hard” ad nauseum.

And this is in defense of instead publishing this information in a dark corner as if it’s Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy.

“But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?” “Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard’."

And no, I don’t think the water company would have an army of 50 people ready to do an organized canvas of the town (unlike the Postal Service, which has a roster of dedicated mail carriers)

Paying 50 people for one day of flyering is an army? How much do you think it costs to send a letter? A water boil notice already means they have failed their own liability and could cause very serious and expensive harms. Yes they have to pay for that (possibly literal) shit.

Just admit you were being silly, not clever, and move on.

You drive door to door leaving flyers. Small crowds of teenagers and college students do this for political campaigns. Why do you think municipal or county staff can’t drive, knock on doors, or drop flyers? You can easily do 100-200 houses per hour if it’s just flyers and no converdationd. You can do the whole thing in a day with 50 people.

It feels like you’d think the US Postal Service is an outlandish fairy tale. “They do what!? Drop of letters and packages to every address? That would take years!”

A competent state would go door to door, not make those affected constantly seek out this type of information. It is a basic public healtg failure.

How it came together is that Houthis started taking out jets from aircraft carriers and the US ran home, being unable to implement their only remaining military strategy: bombing brown civilians with impunity.

Be afraid so that we can cut your benefits and you’ll forgive us due to nationalism.

The Global South is far more developed in this regard and is consequently where most of the action is in the class war. They fight against comprador governments, anti-indigenous oppression, anti-worker policies with far more militancy and organization and popularity than anything in any OECD country. Of course, the people of the Global South are not politically monolithic and they also have liberals, monarchists, fascists, etc.

All correct opinions are heavily biased.

You are wrong both semantically and in emphasis. I have had to say this 3 times already. I pointed out that it’s wrong to put so much emphasis on the former, it is distracting from the injustice, and your response was to be contrarian while ignoring what I’ve argued.

Do some self-criticism.

If you think just a bit harder about what it means for cops to be in on lynchings you will realize that you are drawing attention to an ahistorical and false semantics debate rather than keeping focus on the injustice posted. Just like these Reddit liberals trying to split hairs.

Ask yourself whether it was normal for cops to be at lynchings, then re-read my previous comment.

Reddit liberals are in here trying to make this about their own misunderstanding if a term.

If this was your first response to hearing about occupiers attacking and disappearing someone, reconsider your priorities.

This is the kind of red scare sinophobia that liberals are all complicit in as well. This is why there have been anti-China propaganda pushes: so that you will accept and maybe even help implement siniphobic policies.

Do you believe an invasion is well-supported by very slow, large, connected barges? Militarily this would only make sense for slightly more efficiently supplying an occupation.

For academia I recommend having an IT cost center responsible for the hosting infrastructure, namely virtualization. Then let people have VPSes (or similar) as needed to run docker-based services. This makes it easier to handle network and security concerns. Most large universities already offer something like this to students and faculty.

Why do you want to host them? Usually the difficult parts are necessary because they’re needed to have the level of control, security, and privacy that is the reason a person is self-hosting in the first place. And there are not enough simple standards for running software securely so you do need to learn some nerd stuff to do it right - but no so much that it is impossible for a beginner.