Either way, it appears the US lost multiple aircraft—and this is a massive humiliation for Trump. They have tried to dress up these losses by saying it was a worthwhile price to pay to rescue the crew, but we are talking about a country that doesn’t give its people healthcare—they can spare me the pretence about valuing human life.

Obviously, I’m sceptical that a rescue mission was the real goal. I think spec ops teams were sent to gather intelligence on Iranian defences, suppress nearby threats, and/or destroy military infrastructure. While the fog of war means we cannot be confident about what took place, I feel my explanation makes more sense than the official one. What do you think?

I don’t know, but it’s more plausible than what US administration are peddling.

Mark Tyson weeps for fascist lives, but spares not a tear for Iranian civilians, including primary school children.

“and China.” How is France’s manufacturing infrastructure?

The infant mortality rate has more than doubled in the last seven years due to maximum pressure sanctions first imposed by Trump in 2019. The impact of the oil blockade “will likely be exponentially more severe," Ruth Gibson, a Stanford University doctor who studies the impact of sanctions on public health, told The Times.

Report it

I mean it’s within everyone’s ability, outside someone with psychopathy, to do what the rest of society deems morally acceptable, but when they have a track record of doing what most of us find morally reprehensible, there’s really no reason to expect a sudden change, until they prove they’re trying, I guess.

Ok, but why do you think Vance can send more negotiators who will actually negotiate in good faith?

This is interesting. They seen to be going with the final solution, for the Palestinians, but they may be willing to sow the seeds of chaos, as Israel and the USA seem to be fond of doing. I imagine the affected poor the world over pray they reap a bountiful harvest of their years of sowing.

Why do you think that?

Replying to myself to add context

https://kbin.earth/m/usa@lemmy.ml/t/2532455/-/comment/11930321

That’s my current (very imperfect) best guess.

I’m not sure any of that matters to the billionaire class. They have their bunkers and surveillance state.

Well, even the best developed egos don’t often like humble pie. And I don’t think Trump’s handlers really care much about results, as long as they’re making money. I imagine they imagine money makes humble pie taste really good, until they’re the pie filling.

Painful as it may be for underdeveloped egos, GTFO NOW and start making reparations seems the best option, but I’m an internet rando, so there’s that

I think that’s an eventuality.

I’m guessing three quarters of a decade dealing with the Great Satan was a hard study session that paid phenomenal dividends, to use the only parlance Westerners relate to.

If they’re forced to abandon all their vassals in the Gulf, then their image as a world power collapses overnight.

As opposed to staying and their image being more like the loooooong, slow decomposition of an embalmed corpse? Like it’s still going to happen, it’s just taking too 🤬 long?

And petrol

“He was tortured to death,” Alwadaei told MEE. The fate of the other men who disappeared alongside Mosawi is unknown. Ebtisam al-Saegh, a prominent human rights activist who previously accused Bahrain’s security services of torturing and sexually assaulting her, said she “feel pain and helplessness” after Mosawi’s death. “The state of his body reminds me of many men whose bodies emerged from security custody in the same condition,” al-Saegh told MEE. “They were effectively sentenced to death inside interrogation rooms; their bodies told the story.”

I’m holding my breath…