Yeah see that seems to be a very libertarian market driven way of looking at things.

The way things end up working, at least in the US, is that they a) just won’t raise the minimum wage, and b) even if everyone stops tipping they won’t raise it, and then you’ll have a bunch of people unable to live who still have to work for shit wages. Which is exactly the situation that exists in the states right now.

I’ve lived in the Netherlands for 3 years - i much prefer the set up there. As you say, pay the price that’s listed. No extra surprises.

How? Those people just aren’t going to get the money. Its not like the company is going to pay them extra because you didnt tip. Theyve already decided that the wage will be low Your logic doesn’t really make sense

Im not trying to be mean or anything, but how active and how healthy were you eating at that time?

What’s criminal is 50% of the population not understanding the concept of a pandemic and letting millions of people die but ok keep complaining about beans