• jonirenicus2@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    I wonder if theres a bookie who specialises in the untimely demise of Putin-affiliate people - then I wonder what Prigozhin’s odds are.

    • cxtinac@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      1 year ago

      Ha, I’d rather take odds on Lukashenko “falling from a window” - I seem to remember he was reported as “seriously ill” a few weeks ago, plus if I remember Putin was pressuring him to attack Ukraine, and he refused.

      Get rid of L. and Putin can install Prigo. and they will work together on Ukraine. Scary.

  • cxtinac@sh.itjust.worksOP
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    1 year ago

    To comment on my own link, I still think (per comments elsewhere), that right from the get-go this is a 3-way play orchestrated by Putin to get a strong fight-ready leader on his western flank, and north of Ukraine.

    I do not think it has much at all to do with a coup or exile.

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      1 year ago

      Experts are saying that’s unlikely, though. Why ruin the credibility of the Ministry of Defense if they needed a strong leader? Especially one that’s openly criticized the war to begin with. Pretty bad for morale.

      If anything, we’ve learned Putin has a lot less orchestral than expected.

      Paramilitary private armies are expensive and unpredictable. And technically illegal under Russian law.

      At a time when resources are tight and public trust in government is flaky, it’s makes sense for Putin to consolidate Wagner into the Russian army.

      Prigozhin isn’t a brilliant military strategist (to be fair, neither is Shoigu). He’s a businessman who earned $2B through Wagner milking State money. The dissolution of Wagner is the end of that revenue stream, and possibly his own life.

      IMO, it seems to me like the mutiny is a last ditch negotiating tactic or emotional outburst as a response to losing his livelihood.

      Or… we’ll learn in the coming months and years that there’s a lot more to this story.

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        1 year ago

        Fair enough, I couldn’t disagree at all.

        Would be wonderful to sneak a peak at a historical analysis from ++50yrs: either it’s Putin’s masterstroke, or he’s struggling to tamp down prima donna Prigohzin with his buddy Lukashenko’s help. Occam’s razor would certainly point to the latter.

    • Rob@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      Every analysis I’ve read from reputable sources have come to the conclusion that this was bad for Putin. I think I’ll stick to Occam’s razor on this one.