A video about the effectiveness of the Reddit protest
The people who see the protest as a failure were many of the users who used the official app, default settings, and seldom if ever contributed to the site. They were never going to leave anyway.
Look how many people came here, and there is a noticeable decrease in the number of bots and trolls. I see this as a huge win for us users.
Edit: Just realized this is ambiguous. There’s noticeably fewer bots and trolls here on Lemmy than there were on reddit.
Not only are there fewer trolls here but there are but more well thought out replies and less attention seeking in general. The entirety of Reddit is going to turn into r/teenagers
🌎 👨🚀 🔫 👩🚀
I should have seen this coming
I couldn’t resist :P
I don’t know, my brother has been a Redditor for as long as I was (15 years) and he became angry and hostile when I told him about Lemmy. We’re both in our 50s.
He’s been using the official Reddit app for years and claims it “works perfectly for him”. He seems utterly blind to Reddit’s enshittificaton. He’s always been kind of an asshole- he behaved the same when I quit Facebook, though he eventually did the same- and he also fears new tech (he didn’t have a smartphone until 2020). I wonder if people like him- of which I’m sure there are plenty- will ever wake up.
Sounds like Morpheus was right about not freeing minds once they reach a certain age.
He’s two years older than I am, and I’m here on Lemmy with a deleted 15 year old Reddit account. He’s always been like this, age has nothing to do with it.
I actually think being older in general makes you more willing to move around on the internet, I’ve seen so many changes and joined and left so many things as they rose and fell that it’s just a fact of life that some things on the internet are very cyclical, I’m actually astonished that reddit got as far as it did while remaining relatively user friendly.
The more sure you are of something being perpetual the more ephemeral it seems to actually be.
Did anyone else actually watch the video? It’s inaccurate in places and is biased towards Reddit (e.g. claims that Apollo had no backend costs). Also, it misspelled the CEO’s name as “Steve Hoffman.”
Overall, this is the first post I’ve seen that makes me wish Beehaw had a downvote button.
As of this moment, the post has:
- 87 points on beehaw.org
- 55/38 on kbin.social
- 61 points on midwest.social
- 62 points on programming.dev
The real question is if downvotes on other instances federate back to Beehaw (i.e. did they only hide the button, or did they truly block them?)
As far as I am aware, downvotes do not federate to us. Don’t quote me on this tho
To be fair, if i didn’t learn about lemmy, i would be back on reddit at this point. It just kills the boredom in a way nothing else does.
I would have probably landed somewhere besides reddit. I considered and tried 3 different options, (Lemmy being the third) and stayed here because I was very pleased by the beehaw community. And it’s very similar to reddit, which made the transition easier.
I’m doing my best to ditch reddit, and haven’t used it since they announced the API pricing
It feels like realizing that WhatsApp is a terrible Meta privacy nightmare, but you can’t wake up because you can’t convince your whole family to use Signal.
Many people advise to just quit it anyways and if your family actually cares about you, they’ll switch. Works as a great relatives filter too.
I’ve tried, but Signal is just too cumbersome to use. I sorely miss a web client and my family members sorely miss an Android tablet client. This makes it hard to recommend.
Powerless to change Reddit, yes, but not powerless to find a new community!
To everyone hanging in the fediverse, I just want to say, I am proud of all of you!
NGL I’ve found the communities on here to be much more genuine. It feels like things are less manipulated, like there are less bots and less advertising companies trying to do guerrilla marketing.
Might just be that these communities are small enough that such things are not worth the time of those who would do such things.
At this point I think I’ll always just migrate to smaller communities as time goes on.
I think so long that the community is on an invite-basis community, it raise the cost of botting the website much higher than other platforms so it can de-incentivize them from gaming the platform.
Walking away and not looking back is actually very powerful.
This has the energy of walking away from explosions in slow motion.
yeah, the only thing they are powerless is against their addiction
powerless? Reddit has like 0% of my daily Mindshare and I have here now which doesn’t really feel meaningfully different in any negative way, only positive ones! I like to think I had the power to change my life for the better in this aspect, and I did
They need to embrace the dark side.
I used Shreddit to delete all my posts at Reddit, cancelled my premium sub there, and deleted my account. I was there for over 8 years - paying the entire time, as I believed in trying to support the space.
Walking away did not make me feel “powerless” but rather glad to take my time, support, and interests somewhere else that is (hopefully…) healthier. I know of at least 15 people who have done the same, so if you multiply my story by many others I am pretty sure that such walkouts will be felt eventually - especially from those of us who were paying monthly.
When I left, I landed on Kbin first, something I now am kind of not too sure I will continue for reasons I won’t get into…
but thankfully, I discovered Beehaw here is just more my speed, which makes me happy 🐝☺️
Sorry for the question, maybe it’s not appropriate so don’t answer if you don’t want to but, what was the problem with Kbin? I saw many people telling it’s really good so I would like to hear about the opposite.
Hi. No worries, it’s nice to be asked. 🙂
I mean, I have only been singed up there a week so I am not an expert on what is happening; I don’t have anything against Kbin per say? but I just get this sense that maybe the real goal of the space is a little too much leaning towards a recreation of Reddit practices and features. I also noticed some threads encouraging people to move on to other instances already, which seemed sort of odd to me since again, they are just getting going.
Meanwhile here, things feel more relaxed. I really appreciate the transparency with the vision for Beehaw, and feel that it is well reflected in practice by the mods/admins posts and their interactions, not just posted on the sidebar. The posts from community members also seem way more friendly and positive, so it just seems a much better fit for my comfort zone.
I get it. Many thanks for sharing your opinion :D
Agreed on all points, but re: Lemmy.world, not Kbin.
I just installed the Liftoff app which defaults to showing Lemmy.world and posts there are just like /r/popular from the last few years, with lots of shitposting, low effort comments, and mean-spirited memes. That side of Reddit is why I was only subbed to niche communities.
Here feels like Reddit circa 2010, where people use upvotes to highlight thoughtful/insightful content.
It was particularly jarring on Lemmy.world seeing thoughtful posts supporting a different view being downvoted.
Anyway, fully agreed. Beehaw is my Reddit replacement. I just need to start posting more links again, which I mostly stopped doing on Reddit like a decade ago.
Wow. That video is terrible. At first, I thought it might be a useful perspective because it took reddit’s views into account. At the end, though, he didn’t even mention reddit’s insulting, adversarial attitude, or the fact that reddit is threatening to replace mods who continue to protest.
I learn a lot from opposing viewpoints, but I can’t trust something that’s presented as a documentary style “deep dive” and turns out to be so biased. If someone is relying on deception and lies of omission, yet presenting themselves as neutral, I can only wonder what else they’re lying about.
