• Malyca@lemmy.zip
    7·
    6 hours ago

    It’s like watching an entire empire kick itself in the nards. To death. For years.

  • thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe
    21·
    13 hours ago

    I love how the attempt in the sub-headline/1st paragraph to tie it to spying is totally contradicted by the rest of the article.

    Not to mention scientists of ALL ethnicities are fleeing the US - Europe is struggling to find openings for all the applicants (and they have loudly said they’re welcoming the brain drain).

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
      20·
      13 hours ago

      Exactly, Chinese scientists fleeing the US just have an easier time because China has massive science budget now. The scale of brain drain the US is experiencing is going to be disastrous. These are skills that will not be easy to rebuild in the future, assuming the US even survives as a state.

      • thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe
        49·
        13 hours ago

        The scale of brain drain the US is experiencing is going to be disastrous. These are skills that will not be easy to rebuild in the future, assuming the US even survives as a state.

        As someone smarter than me noted a while ago “Let’s assume for a moment that Trump was a Russian agent when he got elected, with a goal to destroy the US both internally, and its power on the world stage…what exactly would he have done differently to further those aims that he has not done ?”

        The only thing I can suggest would be more overt ties to Russian and a pro-Russian propaganda campaign.

        An Orwellian “We have always been at war with Europe” or something

        • wurzelgummidge@lemmy.ml
          92·
          7 hours ago

          Let’s assume for a moment that Trump was a Russian agent

          If Trump really was Russian agent the world would be in a very different place now.

          But that was just a media ploy to divert attention away from the CIA Ltd/Zionist/corporate agenda for which the orange turd has never been more than a clown faced emoji with which they sign themselves off with.

          • thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe
            21·
            1 hour ago

            LOL, you tankies propagandists are so one-eyed. More than one thing can be the case. We know that Epstein is an Israeli honeypot that snared many, sure. But there’s also plenty of documentation of interactions between Mossad & KGB and its successors. I.e they do cooperate. Anyway just because the Fanta Fascist is on the hook for being a child-rapist, doesn’t mean he isn’t also on the hook with Russia. There’s plenty of documentation about the money they’ve poured into him, and his actions speak louder than words, Tulsi running the CIA pretty much says it all.

            Anyway, you’ve failed to address the point, so if he ISN’T a Russian agent what would he have done differently if he was one ?

            He has cut Ukrainian support as much as Congress will allow him, he negotiates with Putain while ignoring the UA prez. He’s started a war to bump oil prices up just when UA bombing of oil plants is starting to bite Russia economically. He took the sanctions off Russia that he could take off without needing congressional support…

            REALISTICALLY (given he’s not yet the god-emperor he wants to be, there are constraints via congress and HoR and the courts) what could he have done that he didn’t do to prove your case ?

            He’s an evil ADHD dementia riddled puppet of whoever last slung him some money or threatened to expose his vice

            EDITED to spare the fake hurt feelings being used to divert from the point

              • thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe
                22·
                1 hour ago

                Myegh, you’re welcome to provide an alternative label for people arguing the Russian propaganda position while ignoring everything else. I’m not wedded to that - it was used elsewhere in the thread before I did.

                I assume you’ve posted that because you’re unable to address the key argument above ?

                " so if he ISN’T a Russian agent what would he have done differently if he was one ?"

                “REALISTICALLY (given he’s not yet the god-emperor he wants to be, there are constraints via congress and HoR and the courts) what could he have done that he didn’t do to prove your case ?”