• dhork@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    Note that these speed camera “tickets” are different than normal tickets. No cop is pulling them over and issuing a citation to the driver directly. It’s the car that is cited, and usually the registered owner ends up having to pay the fine. But since they can’t prove who is driving it, they can’t issue the same type of conventional ticket. (And that’s also why the fine is so low – make it much higher and people will flood the courts trying to get out of it by saying they weren’t driving it at the time).

    And that’s why they can’t just suspend someone’s license instead. Because they can’t tell who is driving in the picture, and even if someone gets their license suspended, they might just keep driving as long as they don’t get pulled over.

    I generally don’t like technical solutions to social problems. Our cars are getting too smart for their own good anyway. The car companies are putting all this telemetry in there, and some have been recently caught selling your driving history to insurance companies. I definitely don’t want the government punishing people based on cameras they can’t see. We could decide “hey, why not let the government install nannys into the cars of people who speed”. But then there’s not much of a stretch between that and having the government give everyone a nanny.

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      8 hours ago

      Here in austrlaia, the fine goes to the owner unless they make a declaration as to who was actually driving.

      You get penalty points on your licence for speeding and other offences. Get enough points in a period and you lose your licence.

      At high risk times, like public holiday weekends, where lots of people travel, there are double points.

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      5 hours ago

      Or they change the law so that it doesn’t matter who was driving. Unless it was stolen, the owner could still be held responsible. Stop the nonsense

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      10 hours ago

      They’re building to a place where they could do this remotely and that’s ripe for abuses of power. The AI will see that your social karma is low and use parallel construction to develop a reason for suspending your driving privileges effective immediately. Appealing it will probably involve talking to an endless string of clankers on the phone. Ultimately there will be no humans in the chain to accept any kind of responsibility.