I only trust the CIA 😤
Provide a trustworthy source if you want people to believe you. For a source to be trustworthy it shouldn’t be influenced by any of both conflicting countries. This should be a well known fact, by the way.
I’m sorry reality is biased against your prejudice.
It’s all over the news so just google and pick a source.
Do you understand that each of these links contains info provided by FSB? This means, that provided by you sources got their info from other non-reliable source. Provide sources of info that are absolutely non-affected by any country involved in conflict(this means no Russia and its allies). For fairness of justice, sources of info influenced by Ukraine also won’t be counted as reliable in this case.
i’m willing to bet that the sources you consider “trustworthy” or “reliable” are backed by the cia, mi6 or mossad.
you could see screenshots of them doing this in the inventing reality community, but i doubt it’ll matter to you.
Any source of info, that is not affected by the conflicting side, is trustworthy. This means, that any 3d party reporter that got there and recorded everything by himself, will be much more trustworthy than any governmental organization, since any such organization will work in interests of government. What this means, is that it can also spread misinformation if it benefitial for the country. This may happen in a ANY country. Thus, unless you can provide unredacted raw proofs of this fact, at least, from let’s say even from a RANDOM citizen of the country, where it happened, who accidentally recorded it on phone, I have no obligation to believe in this fact or believe you. Fair?
P. S. We have a normal discussion here. If you can’t or don’t want to find liable source, you may simply state this and stop this dialog. I don’t force you spend your time on doing what you don’t like.
i sincerely hope that you’re at least as old as i am because that’s the only thing that could excuse why you have this deeply antiquated media literacy strategy since it’s the same one that i learned when i was in school.
this strategy leaves you woefully unprepared for today’s media landscape where easily available 3rd party media sources are captured and proof of it can be found in the examples like the inventing reality community that i shared with you in my previous comment; reading examinations of this capture by internationally well respected intellectuals like micheal parenti or noam chomsky; or by reading epstien files like document dumps that the american federal gov’t is forced to do as a result of the freedom of information act where they flatly admit to laundering misinformation through 3rd party sources like the new york times as well as creating entirely new sources with an ostensible 3rd party appearances/bonafides. i’m also sure you can see for yourself of 3rd party sources self censoring to maintain access to power like they did with colbert.
the truth of today’s media situation is that actors like the cia, mi6, mossad, and our repsective oligarchies are humans just like you and i are, so they’re just as aware as either of us are at all strategies to break free from their misinformation and have taken steps to ensure that the truly independent 3rd party sources are as difficult as possible for either of us to access as well as to understand.
P. S. We have a normal discussion here. If you can’t or don’t want to find liable source, you may simply state this and stop this dialog. I don’t force you spend your time on doing what you don’t like.
the biggest indictment of westerner – american in particular – media literacy stems from the fact that our governments have either been caught red handed or they publicly admitted to this behavior (eg freedom of information act) decades ago; yet we continue to collectively hold this misinformation as gospel nonetheless.
reading these document dumps myself in the same manner in which many are reading the esptein files right now will show you how much propaganda you’ve been unwittingly ingesting your entire life, as i had done and that’s why i shared my comment earlier; it’s my attempt to bring you to water as others have done for me in the most provocatively concise manner possible, but you’re the only one that can make yourself drink and i regret that i refused to do so for decades.
Any type of media reporting (even 3rd party) comes with inherent bias. Assuming it doesn’t and is therefore more trustworthy, is a logical fallacy. You corroborate stories by reading from all sides. Just because a piece of info comes from a state actor doesn’t make it less trustworthy, only it’s bias is more apparent. Propaganda isn’t effective if it doesn’t contain truths.
Basically you’re arguing here that this didn’t happen and imply western media and western information agencies wouldn’t debunk the story outright if they could
Okay, let’s omit the questions about how you have interpreted my comments. My question is that, where are other sides you are talking about? Provide me other sources of info, so so that I can compare. For some reason, no one can do it here, except for replying with criticism and even gaslighting intents. I want to see other sources of raw unedited material, not some speculations of other news agencies about if it is truth or not. I personally wasn’t able to find any source that has info not from governmental agencies of Russia. I am simply asking about raw facts and proofs not from them.
Provide me other sources of info, so so that I can compare.
Comrade @woodenghost@hexbear.net has provided you western reporting on it. If it werent true or if there were doubts about it being true, do you think western media would report on it?
I personally wasn’t able to find any source that has info not from governmental agencies of Russia.
Sometimes events don’t have these, does that mean it didn’t happen? Are you unaware of the massive amount of Nazis in Ukraine? Do you think it is staged? Do you think western press and information agencies wouldn’t jump at the opportunity to show the FSB lied?
Then what sources do you recommend??
Probably neutral alien monks from Mars who observe earth through a slightly broken amateur telescope, never read, watch or listen to any news themselves, have sworn an oath of silence and only communicate their news cast in form of slight alterations in pitch of a constant monotonous humming sound they make.
Absolutely any source of info, that is not affected by government of country involved in conflict. It can be a 3d party recorder(from another country), who accidentally recorded this event, or even a random citizen of country in which it happened. Even an unredacted video from a street camera or video registrator from a car parked near would be acceptable. I understand that sometimes there exist only 1 source of any info available, but it doesn’t mean that this source will be by default trustworthy. If there no other sources available, then simply state so. You can’t believe absolutely everything in social and information networks nowadays without confirmation.
Russia media says Russia media was attacked by “neo-Nazis”?
They have no reason to lie about that right?
Isn’t that German flag and not the Nazi Germany flag?
This is bad propaganda but there is a valid message in it:
1 Russia calls anyone they don’t like Nazis (that’s fine I do it too) since that word is generally reviled by anyone who isn’t a piece of shit Nazi.
2 Russia is doing genocide (or trying to lol) in Ukraine. But it appears they are genociding their own boys. Way to be. Idiots. Throw yourselves at drones some more.
3 the Russian government is out of money out of modern weapons out of troops and conscripting school children in their failed war
4 Russians are beginning to press x to doubt their government and the purpose of the war
5 Russian media sloppily puts out this video of a “neo Nazi” as propaganda to prove the effectiveness of their security and the purpose of the pointless winnable fight Putin started.
While I don’t doubt that Ukraine is striking deeper and deeper into Russia territory and Russians should be concerned about their safety as Ukraine destroys more and more on their attack, this story is hooey and has nothing to do with Nazis.
Are you kidding? It’s all over the news so just google and pick a source. How about you provide sources for your weird conspiracy theory.
Isn’t that German flag and not the Nazi Germany flag?
No, you can see the fascist black sun on the upper flag in the video.
Just to check if you’re at all capable of speaking in good faith, who do you think blew up the Nord Stream Pipeline, and who did you accuse shortly after it happened? Has your opinion on it changed at all?
It is pointless to argue here with them about it. Save your time and nerves.
It was cathartic! But good advice, I will not argue with them.
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