• Powderhorn@beehaw.org
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    19 hours ago

    The debates that led to these regulations seem tedious as hell. I miss being able to just pop in a new battery (I used to always have a spare, because batteries sucked a decade ago), but this said, I don’t miss the IP rating on dust and water that meant using a phone was risky in a light drizzle.

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      User replaceable batteries do not require phones that are “risky” to use “in a light drizzle”. Decent IP ratings are possible even with those. It is just a question of good design. But such design can’t be really expected by companies pushing glass phone backside for no other reason than that they are prone to break.

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        17 hours ago

        The last phone I had with a removable battery was over a decade ago. With proper gasketing, light rain wasn’t an issue, but up until that point, while I was still in my midrange-phone phase, it totally was. I know people who put their phone in the shower to listen to music and would be aghast that everything hasn’t always been IP68.

        Plus .a few screws on the back shouldn’t be too much of an issue, since the case will cover them.

      • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        They’re possible, but nowhere near as easy. Every time you pop that back off you wear the water protection. Within a year of use my S5 was not IP67 anymore. And all those warnings about it not being fully sealed? Nah. I’ll take a glued shut phone with glue that isn’t insane over that any day.

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        I have no idea what you talk about:

        • there are plenty of reasons for a glass back (wireless charging being the most evident. it is also so much nicer to touch than aluminum)
        • that glass is ridiculously though. it amazing how much abuse it can take without breaking. you are just stuck in how it was 10 years ago when everyone carried broken screens

        also iphones this days can be fully submerged in water with zero issues. I would not trade off that safety

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          9 hours ago

          I see approx 75-100 people per day and they have to show me their phone is switched off. Lots of them, especially the younger ones and manual workers, have cracked screens.

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          Most people are hiding that glass behind TPU. It is pretty pointless other than being a durability weak point. You don’t need glass for wireless charging. You do know that there are alternatived to metal, do you any they don’t need to feel cheap either.

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      16 hours ago

      That’s just the designed to fail but where they want you to buy a new phone even though the old one functions perfectly well with a new battery