Framework announced the Framework 13 Pro including full Linux support right from the beginning.
Some quick information about the Device:
- will use Intel Core Ultra 300 (Panther-Lake)
- updated Battery Design with (up to) 20h Battery life
- custom designed Display Panel with Touch support (keeping the 3:2 aspect ratio)
- LPCAMM2 for upgradable/replacable RAM without compromising on Speed/Low Power of LPDDR5X
- milled Aluminium Unibody chassis
- Full Linux support right from the start (including Firmware update via LVFS, Fingerprint Reader, etc.)
- Haptic Touchpad
- and all the repairability features Framework is known for
You can watch their YouTube Video for a quick summary:
- YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnOpIQJnYWU
- Invidious: https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?__goaway_challenge=js-refresh&__goaway_id=5a21ef489cbc0e9e48ccded2c92f2b68&__goaway_referer=https%3A%2F%2Finv.nadeko.net%2F&v=GnOpIQJnYWU
I was looking for a new laptop to replace my old Lenovo Yoga 370 and initially disregarded the Framework 13 because of some downsides (low Battery Life, bad Camera, etc.) and was looking to go with one of the following devices:
- HP Elitebook X g1a
- the new Dell XPS 14
- Asus Expertbook PM5 G2
or also a MacBook pro. I am using Linux since more then 10 years and never touched MacOS at all. So I was not sure if MacOS would work for me. But this announcement made it easy: It will be a Framework 13 Pro with Intel X7 358H!
they still finance fascists btw
EDIT: You can safely ignore most of what I wrote. Rails World is the DHH Rails conference (I am not a rails person) that they sponsor.
I can’t figure out if this is true or not.They did sponsor Omarchy, and they do still list on their linux support page that they seed hardware to Omarchy, but on their official list of sponsorships (included in the spoiler/hidden block so as not to spam/monopolize the thread) they do not list Omarchy.
So I don’t know what the current situation is, but it does appear they’re distancing themselves from it a bit. They last posted on Bluesky about Omarchy 8 months ago (about when the scandals happened).
Actually: in writing this I realized that Hyprland is also problematic, or maybe they’re not anymore, but they are listed in their sponsorships. So I don’t actually know what that means.
https://frame.work/ca/en/blog/framework-sponsorships
Full List of Sponsorships, Mar 25, 2026
Organization/Event Type Sponsorship amount Los Altos Hacks IX Monetary + product sponsorship $500 Daydream Hackathon Monetary sponsorship $500 Aeroespacial Association COSMOS at the Rey Juan Carlos University (URJC) Monetary sponsorship 3x units Open Hardware Summit hosted by Open Source Hardware Association Monetary sponsorship $500 DebConf Monetary sponsorship €2,000 NixCon Product sponsorship 1x unit KDE Akademy Monetary sponsorship €2,000 Labscon 2025 Product sponsorship 3x units SemiTO-V (University Team) Monetary sponsorship €500 RISC-V International Product sponsorship 2x units Nerdearla Monetary sponsorship €800 Linux Fest Northwest Monetary sponsorship + event booth $500 Open Source Summit North America and Open Source Summit Europe hosted by Linux Foundation Monetary sponsorship + event booth $20,000 COSCUP Monetary sponsorship + event booth $6,000 Texas Linux Fest - hosted by Texas Linux Festival (TXLF) Monetary sponsorship + event booth $2,500 Hackaday Supercon Monetary sponsorship + event booth $30,000 Rails World Monetary sponsorship + event booth €24,000 Hack Club Facilitated donation $87,000 Linux Foundation Monetary sponsorship $5,000/year Hyprland Monetary sponsorship €7,200/year LVFS Monetary sponsorship $10,000/year Arch Linux Monetary sponsorship $5,000/year Debian Monetary sponsorship $5,000/year CachyOS Monetary sponsorship $3,000/year Bazzite Monetary sponsorship $3,000/year NixOS Monetary sponsorship €2592/year FreeBSD Monetary sponsorship $5,000/year NetBSD Monetary sponsorship $2,500/year KDE Monetary sponsorship €10,000/year wether they still support omarchy or not is kinda irrelevant because rails world (which is in your list) is run by the same guy
I did not know that, updated my comment accordingly.
I’m not in the rails community, so this was news to me.
Is there a better option for a modular laptop with good Linux support?
I was wondering about this. Do you have any resources for what they’ve been up to since their vile “big tent” statements?
the other person who replied to me has a list of organisations/projets framework finances. among those is rails world, which is run by the same guy that does omarchy
Man I was really hoping for a haptic touchpad compatible with the current input cover… At least they kept the Pro input cover compatible with the regular chassis, although it’s a very pricey upgrade.
This is really cool, I hope they end up taking off. I wish there was something similar to this in the EU. I’d be very interested in a laptop I can upgrade over time.
They are sold in Europe, no need to wait!
I appreciate the heads up, but I’m trying to buy from EU if I can.
Europe doesn’t make RAM, or processors or WiFi chips. Why do you want a European dude assemble parts for you?
Ah then your comment makes sense. In Europe the closest we have are the Linux laptops from Tuxedo, which I’ve heard are pretty repairable, but not really upgradeable.
Tuxedo is actually who I’m probably going to end up going with. Repairability is a must, upgrading I’m okay with being a “nice to have” for now. My fingers are crossed for something during the next upgrade cycle, though!
Tuxedo (and most of “European” and/or “Linux” brands like Slimbook, XMG/Schenker etc.) are rebranded Tongfang or Clevo laptops though. They are neither designed nor made in Europe.
there are a couple of third party motherboards compatible with framework already.
not there yet but it seems it’s slowly getting there.
Are framework products not available in the EU?? They’ve been making stuff for years I figured surely they would be
I’m sure they are, but I’m trying to support EU companies rather than US if I can avoid it.
If you buy Tuxedo you’re supporting Chinese companies mostly
They cost an arm and a leg. We definitely need our own version of Framework home grown.
Pro 13 pre built with Intel Germany: 2369 eur USA: 1499 usd
You can literally go to New York, eat a rye and pastrami, get your framework 13 pro, fly back and still be somewhat ahead
They are sold in Europe, don’t worry.
Well, not as powerful as my m5 pro macbook, but incredibly compelling. Should macOS/apple piss me off sufficiently I’m glad to know I have a good option to move to although it seems I’d be missing out on hdr? It’s frustrating that the framework feels like such a me coded device and I love Linux but there’s stuff I use/like about macOS that I can’t quite replicate just yet. I hope framework really does takeoff, would love one of these as my work issued machine instead of shitty dell laptops someday.
If bribing a fascist president with a literal gold bar, refusing to comply with EU law and then complying maliciously years later, global tax dodging, and anti-competitive behavior isn’t enough to piss you off sufficiently, I’m not sure what will.
When the Motorola Graphene phones are available, I’m dumping my iPhone, which is my last Apple device.
That’s certainly a fair point and I’m certainly not happy about it but ultimately I need at least one machine around to run some various proprietary software. I’d rather it be macOS than windows. Also given current hardware pricing I didn’t have the capital to grab say this framework and setup all my own cloud stuff just yet. I do self host a lot of stuff on an older mini pc, and I do use Linux on my desktop but I’m not quiiite there yet. I also did try graphene for a couple weeks but ultimately can’t use it yet full time. I’m definitely keeping an eye on the project though
Definitely going to get the full width touchpad for my F16, I dont think my wife needs to upgrade her F13 just yet tho
Also tempted by the occulink kit, especially since I could use my current 7700S with it
So, no weird firmware issues with Framework, like Tuxedo had?
There are issues, but at least Framework releases firmware updates
The machine hasn’t shipped yet, and won’t until July. Framework has a page for downloads of their BIOS updates for their various generations of mainboards, and for Linux users all firmware can be updated by LVFS via fwupd as far as I’m aware.
I have my preorder in for the 13 pro, and I know full well there may be some firmware growing pains with the new chip architecture, but I think 6 generations in, they’ve proven themselves capable of addressing any issues that arise.
My 7040u is rock solid on Fedora. I’ve seen some pretty bad shit with the Ryzen AI series, but people tend to only post about issues.
It better not have a HiDPI display… It’s not “fully Linux compatible” if they ship it with a buggy, non-compatible HiDPI display.
“Full Linux support” should mean I don’t have blurry fonts, oddly shaped windows, stuck using only certain DEs, stuck using only certain apps.
All of the OSs that ship by default on Framework machines properly support HiDPI. I think it’s fair to expect that shipping with HiDPI is fine. Yes, or course, you can put your own OS on it, but I don’t complain to Dell when my preferred OS doesn’t support some piece of hardware properly.
Lol, just because you chose to use DEs that don’t support it well doesn’t mean every customer that wants high resolution has to suffer.
In the announcement they say the resolution (2880x1920) was chosen to be used at 2x scaling for that reason.
I dont fully get that? Its not a multiple of 1920x1080, so thats unclear to me.
What’s the issue with HiDPI ? I’m out of the loop.
KDE just merged a bunch of rendering improvements for HiDPI displays in their latest release.
I use it on a 2x scale display and it works perfectly fine.
