I’ve spent years championing Linux as the only escape from Big Tech, but I’m starting to get twitchy.

While we’re distracted by the Steam Deck making Linux “mainstream,” the corporate players and politicians are busy building a digital cage. Between California’s AB-1043 mandates and Microsoft’s “Face Check” infrastructure, I’m worried we’re heading for a hard schism: “Sanitised Linux” vs the “Free Rebel” distros.

If the compliant, age-gated version becomes the industry standard, where does that leave the rest of us? Digital exile?

I’ve put some thoughts together on why the “Golden Cage” is closing in and why education, not mandates, is the only real fix.

  • halfdane@piefed.social
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    9 hours ago

    How would anyone place a 100% community driven distribution like Debian in such a cage? There’s no monetary leverage, the community is truly international, so local laws don’t apply …
    Please note that it’s also one of the most prolific distributions, and the foundation p.e. for *buntu.

    If you’re living in an oppressive jurisdiction, your employer might obviously not allow you to use a truly free operating system, but that’s hardly Linux’s fault.

    So if your favorite distribution is starting bullshit, just switch to the next one, there are literally thousands of them. That’s why “Year of the Linux desktop” is confusing: it’s “year of steamOs” or “year of *buntu”, probably even “year of Debian”, but most certainly never “year of the nixos desktop”.

    You have choice. Use it.

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      9 hours ago

      My real worry isn’t that Debian will cave, but that the services we use every day—banks, government sites, DRM-heavy media—will start checking for a “compliant” kernel. If those “invisible borders” get built, you might have a truly free OS that’s effectively useless for 90% of the modern web.

      It’s not about the distro failing; it’s about the “compliant” versions becoming the only key to the door. We have the choice now, but the gap between “free” and “functional” is definitely getting wider.

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        9 hours ago

        will start checking for a “compliant” kernel.

        Reminds me of all the banking apps that rely on Google’s “secure” crap to run.

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        9 hours ago

        How will they check for a compliant kernel, at a technical level? I haven’t seen any proposed way to do that that can’t be easily circumvented.

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          It’s less about a “scan” and more about the “handshake.” Look at things like Windows 11 requiring a TPM and Secure Boot, or the Microsoft Pluton chip being baked into newer CPUs.

          They don’t need to inspect your code. They just need a cryptographic “attestation” that says your hardware and kernel are in a “known good” state. If your DIY kernel doesn’t have the right digital signature from the manufacturer, the service whether it’s a bank or a Netflix stream, simply says “computer says no” and denies the connection.

          Sure, we’ll find workarounds, but for 99% of people, that “invisible border” is a brick wall.

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            Sure, we’ll find workarounds

            I’d phrase it as “we might occasionally find workarounds that kinda work sometimes”. I tried running de-Googled Android on my phone for a while, and the only reason I could use it for online banking, pay for public transport, contact health services, etc. was because some people had reverse-engineered Google’s services (i.e. microG). It also stopped working every now and then when something changed, and to my knowledge Google could also shut it down instantly if they started encrypting their APIs. I wouldn’t bet on there always being workarounds if this push to lock down operating systems and online services continues.

            Someone else posted something interesting/alarming the other day… With AI becoming more advanced and also more accessible, it’s going to be increasingly difficult to keep spam, scams, etc. at bay. If the mainstream computing world ends up in this gilded cage trap, even if a minority choose to maintain and use forks that stay outside the system, it might be quite difficult to keep for example a forum functional.

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      9 hours ago

      How would anyone place a 100% community driven distribution like Debian in such a cage?

      By getting the Debian deciding body to approve systemd a while back, for starters.
      It’s apparently very easy.

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        I swear people have rose tinted glasses as to the state of the init system before the current generation of system management daemons.

        If you really want to have Debian without systemd there is always Duvean but the Debian architects are free to choose the technologies that solve the very real system orchestration problems that exist.

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          If you really want to have Debian without systemd there is always Duvean

          Devuan.
          And Slackware, Gentoo, Artix and many others, yes.

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            All used profusely by hobbysts and evangelists, the kind of people with a lot of spare time to write bullshit online, and never ran more than 5 machines for more than a year with evolving operational requirements.

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                Usage and contributions data on debian and rhel, the vast majority uses systemd and does not complain about it.

                Edit: since you probably don’t care about people actually working with linux, a further datapoint is the steam hardware survey.

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                  So, by your own words, everyone who uses systemd and doesn’t complain is

                  All used profusely by hobbysts and evangelists, the kind of people with a lot of spare time to write bullshit online, and never ran more than 5 machines for more than a year with evolving operational requirements.

                  so, again, data on this or just keyboard warrioring?
                  Don’t bother answering, we both know the answer.
                  Bye.