Today, in a symbolic act, Iranians set fire to the flags of Israel and the United States, as well as an obelisk and a statue of Baal—which they described as a symbol of Satan—in various cities across Iran in response to the release of the Epstein documents.
Good reminder for all those who were calling on U.S intervention just some weeks ago
Say what you want, but their effigy-burning commitment is absolutely top notch.
They build a fucking statue that any Baal-worshiper would be thrilled to have in their home and then burn it.
That statue is awesome. Blows Banksy’s picture-shredder out of the water.
I’m just wondering if they contracted the statue out to some artist without sharing their plans.
“You did what with it? Dude, that took me fifteen fucking months. MY WIFE LEFT ME!!!”
I’m just wondering if they contracted the statue out to some artist without sharing their plans.
I think the first part is a safe assumption, but I can I can’t imagine any reason for secrecy. It may have been state or community or corporate funding.
Iranians set fire to the flags of Israel and the United States, as well as an obelisk and a statue of Baal which they described as a symbol of Satan in response to release of the Epstein documents.
These bingo wins are getting way too specific …
How is this a real event that got to world news?
(I’m not disputing anything, just the combination of events that lead to this.)Missiles and anti-Israeli chants: Iran marks the 47th anniversary of the Islamic Revolution
One of the most striking scenes involved protesters setting fire to a sculpture representing Baal, an ancient Canaanite deity often invoked as a symbol of evil. The figure was depicted with a Star of David and an image of U.S. President Donald Trump, as crowds chanted “Death to Israel.”
If I learned anything from Burning Man it’s that, in order to burn something in effigy, you first need to construct a combustible effigy.
… Now I wanna know why there was a statue of Baal on the street in iran. Like, is there a Baal worshipping segment of the population? Was it some ancient statue? An art piece? Ragebait? I have so many questions.
They built the statues specifically to burn them down for this symbolic act, they are not stone statues. I answered this to our other friend who asked as well🙏🏻
Oh that explains it, thank you! I wonder why Baal was singled out instead of just building a statue of satan himself? There’s a cultural aspect here I’m missing.
Why did they have an obelisk and a statue of Baal?
Obelisk and statue of Baal are both associated with satanism, Obelisk is way more famous and way more used, Baal is a god representing high corruption and requiring child sacrifice from it’s worshippers (even in bible). Jeffery Epstien also named his bank accound Baal which was seen in the Epstien Files.
Baal was just a normal local god for a long time. Actually several different gods, as the word just means God, but one was most famous. He was associated with weather and fertility. There’s absolutely no evidence for human sacrifices. The Romans were more tolerant than the abrahamic religions. When they build the largest temple complex ever outside Rome in the city of Baalbek in Lebanon, they allowed the locals to worship Baal in the huge entrance hall to the Jupiter temple. The intolerant monotheistic religions invented all the bad stuff about him to gain influence. Today, you can get tours and visit jazz concerts in the temples, if Israel is not currently bombing the site of the irreplaceable world cultural heritage, which they did of course.
But my question is, what are they doing there? Who built them and for what purpose? I’m assuming this is in Iran. Those don’t look like ruins, Baal was never worshiped in Iran to my knowledge, that Obelisk is decorated with hieroglyphs which aren’t Iranian.
They built them to burn them down for this symbolic act
That’s a level of petty I can get behind! Built specifically to destroy.
Ah, ok
…they aren’t stone buildings
I thought it was something that was made before the protest. I didn’t think the protestors would make a statue and an obelisk just for a demonstration.
It’s not a spontaneous protest. It’s an organized commemoration of the Sha (a comprador of US empire) being overthrown 47 years ago.
Reasons.
Isn’t there evidence that the Canaanite gods El and Ba’al were merged into Yahweh, who remains to this day the Christian god and the Islamic Allah? These people are burning their own god
Edit: My Lemmy client is messing up and won’t let me respond to comments. Just wanted to add that yeah, the Muslim Allah is the same Abrahamic God that Christians and Jews worship. In fact, the name “Allah” is directly derived from the god “El”:
The majority of scholars consider[Allah] to be derived from a contraction of the Arabic definite article al- and ilāh “deity, god” to al-lāh meaning “the deity, the God.” Originally, ʾilāh was used as an epithet for the West Semitic creator god ʾIlu (the Ugaritic version of El), before being adopted as the proper name itself for this god
El, Ba’al, Yahweh, God, and Allah are all wrapped up in each other
I don’t really know about christians but for muslims, Allah was never a merge of other gods, so what you are saying is not correct when it comes to muslims.
Not canonically, but they mean historically and like sociologically.
The etymology of some words have previous origins, but that’s it. The concept of God in Islam (and all of Abrahamic monotheism) is very different from other religions (including the pagan religions of the time and Zoroastrianism), it’s way less bestial and/or anthropomorphic and local.
i went on a really fascinating rabbit hole when i read baal’s role in the epstein files and learn that all abrahamic monotheism started out as polythesitic paganism based on the ancient mesopotomic pantheon of gods.
over time, they morphed into monotheism with a particular god as the supreme ruler and all of the other others were demoted to demigod/hero/prophet/noteable-figure status. baal was such a god and became synonymous with satan in what would eventually become the cristo-judiastic religions we know today.
i went on a really fascinating rabbit hole
Just posting to say that I initially read that as “i went on a really fascinating rabbi hole”
That’s pretty interesting, if questionable. The major prophets of Abrahamic monotheism are pretty clearly men, with flaws and no major powers (Moses parted the sea and Jesus healed the sick but the former had to exile himself and lead his people through the desert and much suffering and the latter got captured and murdered by the Romans… Zeus wouldn’t have gone through that, you know). Solomon was proud and very hedonistic in his youth, Moses killed a man, Job got angry at God… But yeah, before God guided people full-on, paganism was the law of the land. Or they had something more interesting and closer to the magnanimity, complete supremacy and non-anthropomorphic nature of God, like the cultures that worshipped the Sun. 🤷
Religion are just belief stolen from other religion that stole it from other religion since the start of religion anyway
So in that way yes it’s true for muslim too
Yeah but the guys who stole my religion were being guided by the real God!
I mean they were going to set fire to the statue no matter what, because religion is stupid.
