Bandcamp has announced that music and audio that is generated wholly or in substantial part by AI is not permitted on its platform.
    • Kissaki@beehaw.orgEnglish
      8·
      1 day ago

      This is literally how all of law, terms, regulations, and moderation work. The collective or defining party defines a set of rules.

      The rules obviously don’t prevent lying or ignoring the rules, but they set the baseline to moderate and act with. Without the rule, Bandcamp would not remove such content, and people could not reclaim their money, and nobody could sue the publishers.

    • FedPie@piefed.socialEnglish
      30·
      2 days ago

      They are stating the values of their platform. Sure some will sneak in but I support them putting a line in the sand.

          • whoever loves Digit 🇵🇸🇺🇸🏴‍☠️@piefed.socialEnglish
            16·
            2 days ago

            For a global feed? No, as far as I know nobody has one yet

            For individual feeds? Yes, “web of trust”

            You add a “verified human” tag to any users you’ve met face-to-face

            Then you can filter by

            • Your tagged humans
            • Tagged human by you or those you follow
            • Tagged human by you, those you follow, or those they follow

            Etc.

            And the focus should be on filtering bots and ensuring accountability, not trying to stop people from posting “AI”

            You can still post incorrect shit generated by chatGPT, but if you want to show up in filtered feeds, you have to be an actual human saying chatGPT’s incorrect shit with your own face’s reputation on the line

            This is much better than pretending it’s possible to prove what is or isn’t “AI” as an excuse to later pretend some AI posts aren’t and some non-AI posts are

    • LukeZaz@beehaw.orgEnglish
      111·
      2 days ago

      Your reasoning here appears to be “this solution isn’t thorough enough” with a later-added mix-in of “therefore it is all a lie to trick you.” Which immediately breaks down, as perfect is not the enemy of good, and even if it was a lie (which is a non-sequitur, by the way) then banning some AI is still better than banning none.

      I’m not gonna debate it, though. I’ve rewritten this comment three times now because I need to say my piece in a civil manner and that’s hard to do when I’ve just watched someone shit on one of the few pieces of good news I’ve seen in weeks. I’ve done that now, so I’m out.

      • whoever loves Digit 🇵🇸🇺🇸🏴‍☠️@piefed.socialEnglish
        12·
        2 days ago

        Incorrect, the problem isn’t that it’s not thorough, the problem is it’s an abusive gaslighting lie designed to support other lies, abuses, and gaslighting.

        And if you want to talk to me without being civil, I suggest nostr, there are no bans there.

    • Kronusdark@beehaw.orgEnglish
      61·
      2 days ago

      It’s actually surprising, lots of AI bros love to brag when their stuff is made with AI. it self-selects.

      • whoever loves Digit 🇵🇸🇺🇸🏴‍☠️@piefed.socialEnglish
        22·
        2 days ago

        I’m honest about use of chat bots, it’s not actual AI or a brag.

        But not everyone is so honest. The point is to be able to filter people like me, filter some other random people, and let through the preferred chat bots of the authorities while pretending they’re humans.

    • Fifrok@discuss.tchncs.de
      21·
      2 days ago

      You do realize that people can still tell when slop is passed as music. And the only reason it’s so prevalent on spotify and whatever other corpo platforms is because it’s used to pay artists who upload there less, right?

      • whoever loves Digit 🇵🇸🇺🇸🏴‍☠️@piefed.socialEnglish
        21·
        2 days ago

        You do realize that people can still tell when slop is passed as music

        In the past, but what about the future? Or even the present?

        And the only reason it’s so prevalent on spotify and whatever other corpo platforms is because it’s used to pay artists who upload there less, right?

        Sounds right, yeah, but what does it have to do with what I said?

        • Fifrok@discuss.tchncs.de
          2·
          2 days ago

          Or even the present?

          Still somewhat easy, but it might take a couple of seconds. In the future it might get hard, but since generative models are already poisoning all training data sources, I hope it will take a while.

          what does it have to do with what I said?

          That this will ‘work’ to reduce slop visibility just because that it won’t be actively pushed by the company, despite how hard it is to track and remove the garbage itself.