Venezuela has ordered its navy to escort its tankers carrying petroleum products from its ports after President Trump declared a "complete and total blockade" on "sanctioned" tankers going into and out of Venezuela, The New York Times reported on Wednesday. The report said that several ships sailed from Venezuela's east…
This is the game Trump wants them to play. The should get their client-countries and allied neighbors to do this for them. Build pipelines or transport by rail to ports in other SA countries. He might like that too, but its harder for him to escalate like-so.
the united states has re-inserted itself to interfere in the elections of all of the neighboring countries in the last few years (and painfully obviously so this time around). only brazil has successfully defended itself (so far), so the incoming administrations will be hostile to venezuela.
but the point is moot since colombia is the only neighboring country whose geography & development lends itself towards pipeline/transport, but the interior of the country is controlled by paramilitaries that have been fostered by the united states since the days of the iran-contra.
also, this status quo won’t change since brazil is energy independent, so it doesn’t need venezuela’s oil anyways and it’s still a capitalist country that can’t block american election interference forever.
Venezuela borders Brazil, which has deep-sea ports itself and borders Peru, which is getting its own mega-port. Technically, a line down to the Rio Negro River would be sufficient on the Brazil side; Might require dredging in some spots, but its average depth is more than deep enough for the largest tanker-ships, and its wide-enough to fit more than a dozen-abreast.
The US is playing a stupid, stupid game. Committing acts of terrorism and piracy on the high-seas. I don’t want the Amazon contaminated, but should it happen, its not Venezuela or Brazil to blame.
That’s why escorting the tankers is a bad idea. Delay the war by whatever means possible until the US Navy’s interference, at least, can be rendered irrelavent.
They gotta avoid a land-and-sea open-war first. Dock everything domestic and let the buyers’ ships come to them. Refuse to sell to countries that don’t protect even their own ships.
The US Navy is already interfering, and I never suggest they could stop it, but rendering it in-effective/irrelavent after a certain point seems achievable from where I sit. The US hasn’t won a land-war since Korea, and North Korea only really had China’s backing.
Venezuela is surrounded by countries which have every reason to help them end-run US interference, and whatever excuse the US brings to the table this time, its not coming with UN, NATO, or any sort of “multi-lateral”-backing. Again, that’s what the US had in Iraq and Afghanistan, and those still endeded in failure.
There’s no pretending its not about oil and territory this time.
This is the game Trump wants them to play. The should get their client-countries and allied neighbors to do this for them. Build pipelines or transport by rail to ports in other SA countries. He might like that too, but its harder for him to escalate like-so.
the united states has re-inserted itself to interfere in the elections of all of the neighboring countries in the last few years (and painfully obviously so this time around). only brazil has successfully defended itself (so far), so the incoming administrations will be hostile to venezuela.
but the point is moot since colombia is the only neighboring country whose geography & development lends itself towards pipeline/transport, but the interior of the country is controlled by paramilitaries that have been fostered by the united states since the days of the iran-contra.
also, this status quo won’t change since brazil is energy independent, so it doesn’t need venezuela’s oil anyways and it’s still a capitalist country that can’t block american election interference forever.
Venezuela borders Brazil, which has deep-sea ports itself and borders Peru, which is getting its own mega-port. Technically, a line down to the Rio Negro River would be sufficient on the Brazil side; Might require dredging in some spots, but its average depth is more than deep enough for the largest tanker-ships, and its wide-enough to fit more than a dozen-abreast.
The US is playing a stupid, stupid game. Committing acts of terrorism and piracy on the high-seas. I don’t want the Amazon contaminated, but should it happen, its not Venezuela or Brazil to blame.
it’s not that brazil CAN’T trade oil with venezuela; it’s that it will take more time than they have before the war starts to trade in this way.
That’s why escorting the tankers is a bad idea. Delay the war by whatever means possible until the US Navy’s interference, at least, can be rendered irrelavent.
i doubt that they get to decide when the us navy gets to interfere.
They gotta avoid a land-and-sea open-war first. Dock everything domestic and let the buyers’ ships come to them. Refuse to sell to countries that don’t protect even their own ships.
The US Navy is already interfering, and I never suggest they could stop it, but rendering it in-effective/irrelavent after a certain point seems achievable from where I sit. The US hasn’t won a land-war since Korea, and North Korea only really had China’s backing.
Venezuela is surrounded by countries which have every reason to help them end-run US interference, and whatever excuse the US brings to the table this time, its not coming with UN, NATO, or any sort of “multi-lateral”-backing. Again, that’s what the US had in Iraq and Afghanistan, and those still endeded in failure.
There’s no pretending its not about oil and territory this time.
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