Plot twist: Theres still hackers in multiplayer even with all that crap plus rootkit they bundle with.

  • shininghero@pawb.social
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    1 day ago

    It’s more unusual than anything. TPM2 and Secure boot are requirements I would expect from a security compliance checklist and software handling at least somewhat valuable data, like maybe a password vault.

    A steam game is the last place I would expect this.

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      22 hours ago

      Once you delve into the technical specifics of Secure Boot and the TPM, it’s actually not that unusual. I wrote more detail in another comment on this post, but the TLDR of it is that Secure Boot is meant to enforce the integrity of the boot procedure to ensure that only approved code runs before the Windows kernel gets control, and the TPM 2.0 is meant to attest to that. Together, they make it possible for anticheat to tell if something (like cheating software) tried to rootkit Windows as a way to evade detection.

      I don’t agree with the requirement, but it’s not a pointless requirement or some grand conspiracy to make people buy new hardware.

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        14 hours ago

        its like you are intentionally trying to misunderstand what they are saying, good work at it. Obviously, they didn’t deem SB and TPM unusual, but the types of software (entertainment industry products) demanding it while the software of the security industry does not.

        but it’s not a pointless requirement or some grand conspiracy to make people buy new hardware.

        consumers won’t benefit from this functionality, but many industries will in the foreseeable future

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          9 hours ago

          You quoted the end of my comment, so you must have read this part:

          Together, they make it possible for anticheat to tell if something (like cheating software) tried to rootkit Windows as a way to evade detection.

          For the threat model of anticheat software, verifying system integrity is not an unusual requirement.

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            6 hours ago

            right, you can look at it that way too. but what the consumers see (and feel) is that the game tells what kind of software you can have, even when that is not related to the game. and that’s what’s not usual.

            this is less obvious on windows, because it’s not that common to be modified by users in a way that matters here, as the checks are kind of loose, but on android it’s quite different, and windows is likely to get the same treatment, which is the reason why valve is pouring so much money into linux

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      1 day ago

      It is for the anti-cheat, it seems, and for the case of BO7 it seems to actually have worked this time. I haven’t seen a hacker at all.

      • Empricorn@feddit.nl
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        11 hours ago

        I haven’t either! Because I won’t willingly install a rootkit on my computer or play a game that requires malware…