I’m not sure if anyone cares about an update, but I wanna just vent a bit.
I got the email (as shown in the screenshot) on June 25 very late at night.
Welp, I filed a Chargeback immedialy upon reading that. Guess that’s one store I can’t go to anymore… 🤷♂️
Still have yet to hear back from the bank on their process, but they say they’ll “temporarily credit the balance” while they “investigate”.
If my Bank decides to screw with me, the next update is probably gonna be in “c/ActuallyInfuriating” (I hope everything goes through fine, fingers crossed)
I did some online searching, and found like a few different posts from Reddit with others saying they got the same “completed investigation… unable to provide refund or replacement” bullshit.
They didn’t even give me a chance to send the video evidence. The rep on the phone said they would “contact me there are any updates or request further information”, but didn’t tell me where to send the video to. Nor did anyone contacted me to request it.
What I think happened with the so-called “investigation” is that, BestBuy just deferred it to Doordash, and they must’ve looked at the picture taken by the driver and just sided with their driver to protect their bottom line, and BestBuy just accepted that as an explanation.
Pictures are stationary lmfao. That proves nothing. Only that the package was at the door (which was actually a neighbor’s door btw), not that the driver didn’t just snatched it immediately after.
Tbh, I doubt things would change much even if they got the video, they don’t take this seriously at all. They would’ve just said the video was blurry and deny refund.
Btw: I ended up ordering a different laptop from Amazon and they shipped with UPS and it arrived safely, with all security seals intact. I don’t like how Amazon is taking over everything and have become monopolistic, but at least their stuff actually arrives…
Terrible, terrible place.
I was so much happier when I realized that Staples had almost as much tech stuff. Staples staff answers all my dumb questions clearly and never tries to oversell.
Send your story and video to some of the tech press. I’d bet someone picks it up and Best Buy suddenly gives you whatever you want to make it right.
Post the video to the internet. Explain what it is make sure to credit the two companies for their involvement. Don’t stop at one post and hope it catches on.
That’s messed up. Just on the basis of it being a picture of a different door is grounds for a refund, that clearly shows they did not deliver it to the address they were paid to deliver it to. Super frustrating and I hope it all gets worked out for you.
The crap leave it on the doorstep and hope no one nicks it delivery wasn’t a thing in my country until amazon made it a thing. Don’t make out they’re the good guys. They’re absolutely not.
Seems like you’re in the UK too.
Yeah, this was never a thing until Amazon made it one.
Thankfully, the law is very unambiguous about this, and if a parcel is left outside and then stolen before it gets into your hands (unless you specifically asked for it to be left outside) then you are entitled to a refund or replacement.
Amazon play the numbers game and figure that replacing x number of packages costs less than needing their drivers to bring all the undeliverable packages back and try again a different day.
It’s not a cool precedent though and I very much dislike it being normalised.
And when I order laptops from Amazon, they generally send them UPS and make me sign for them. Pretty much anything expensive I’ve had to sign for. Chargeback should be ezpz for OP, though they may want to file a police report (can’t recall the first thread, if they did or not).
“We investigated ourselves and found we have no wrongdoing”
“the result of the investigation is that you owe us money”
Have you thought about sending this story with the video to local news? I’m sure they will love it and negative publicity will force BB to resolve it.
Did you report doordash to the police?
Go to your attorney general’s website and fill out a form for a complaint. Check the box says you don’t mind getting the news involved and detail everything you’ve done so far that hasn’t worked.
I worked in customer service escalations for a large company. We had a couple of dedicated people who handled inquiries on complaints sent to the AG, skipping several tiers of support if someone from the AG’s office asked about it. Usually it was some bored office adminstrator who’d share the customer’s complaint and await a response from the company and make sure everything was above the board, and largely exist as a mediator between the customer and the company. Involving the AG is a very good step to take in a customer service failure on any kind of order/RMA problems, especially if you’re out money
I just got done reading the original post.
I don’t know if this is the right advice, or if this advice will help anyone, but if you have the delivery driver on camera mis-delivering the product, then stealing the product, I would have first contacted the delivery service/Best Buy with a photo of the front of your house with the house numbers clearly visible to say that the product was not delivered to your home. Full stop. The package was not delivered correctly. If BB/DD insist on that the package was delivered to me, I’d file a police report. Police report in hand, I’d respond to BB/DD with the police report and video of the incident and request to either be refunded or to receive the product you paid for.
Basically, give them as little wiggle room as possible before you invoke professionals into the mix who can advocate for you.
You shouldn’t have to do that much work for this, just charge it back and find another company to do business with. And make sure everyone you know, knows how scummy these businesses are.
My take is that this guy did business with Best Buy, not Door Dash. I would never do business with Door Dash and I’m never doing business with Best Buy after hearing this story. It’s up to Best Buy to wrangle their contractors, not OP. I’d also just do the chargeback tbh. The credit card company always sides with their customers unless it’s obviously a scam, and if there’s video evidence, the credit card company has no problem taking their money back from Best Buy. They have no reason to choose Best Buy because they have no other option if they want to keep accepting credit cards. OP has dozens of credit card and banking services to choose from instead.
Why tf would you put that much work into it? Just file a charge back and move on with your life.
The police do not care about porch pirates.
But the bank would care about the police report for the charge back. A civil court would care about it if having to sue for restitution if the charge back is denied.
Feels like slam dunk small claims. They might not even bother sending a representative.
This is the correct answer. The incorrect answer is to order more DD from BB and hope for the same guy while you hold a baseball bat behind the door.
100%
The administrative state may not give a shirt about you or the crimes that have been committed against you, but they care about your capacity to make life challenging for them. Police won’t investigate, but they will take a report. A report is a legal document. It implies the threat of real consequences if they don’t get their ship together.
Honestly I would try reaching out to some local or regional news networks to see if they want to run your story. I’m sure they’ll love also having the video because they can show it during the segment. It sucks that it has to suddenly become a PR matter for the companies involved for them to give a shit.
I had a similar thing happen with Best Buy. I ordered a laptop which showed as “delivered” but never arrived. In fact I was at home the whole day they claimed it was delivered and nobody even came. Best Buy had no proof it was delivered other than a tracking number, and wouldn’t send me a new one or refund me. The employee on the phone told me to just call the police and report it as stolen. I escalated it to a supervisor and asked them to listen to the original conversation, and explained that it’s not my responsibility to get the laptop - it’s their responsibility to ship it to me. I also at the same time disputed it with my credit card. The end result was someone at Best Buy calling me back and apologizing for the employee’s mistake, and my credit card company saying they refunded my money, as well as telling me I could keep the laptop if it ever arrived later. So it ended up working out. I just had to escalate it and be the squeaky wheel.
Yeah this is what back charges are for, and the absolute beauty of credit.
Won’t hear me say that much.
But you don’t have to go through the nonsense if you use credit.
You tell them “hey I bought this and didn’t get it I am disputing the charge.”
And their legal team calls their legal team and says “we want receipts and proof or we will litigate and also we are a financial institution and you’re best buy so be smart here.”
Instant (well not really, but effortless) resolve almost every time you’re in the right.
I use my credit card for everything, and pay it off fully every month.
I had to do a chargeback once. Convert tickets bought in December 2019, concert obviously cancelled. Ticket site wouldn’t refund, they just kept saying “oh just wait until it’s rescheduled” when I E-mailed for a refund. I asked four times. I told them “even if it is rescheduled, I’m not going to a concert in a pandemic.”
I went to my credit card’s web site, clicked a button, wrote a sentence, and the charge was gone. Never heard about it again. It’s truly the way to go.
Yes, the system works, but it kinds sucks that it’s based on getting the biggest gorilla on your side, rather than which side is actually in the right.
That’s kinda the way of the world in general unfortunately.
For every person like you that won’t take the shit, there are many more that will just give up. Just like unemployment and insurance claims - denial is the first step in protecting the bottom line.
If nobody accepted such bollocks, it would be more economical to actually investigate, provide service & improve processes - rather than trying to bin complaints at the first hurdle.
Prime (lol) example over here is with Amazon not making it easy to return shit after 30 days, by hiding all the easy return options at that point. You can still do it by contacting customer service and they will generally acquiesce, but just having the extra steps there is enough to save a ton of money by keeping the uninformed in the dark.
Fuck em. Make it difficult for them. Be the goddamn squeakiest wheel you can possibly be.
For every person like you that won’t take the shit, there are many more that will just give up. Just like unemployment and insurance claims - denial is the first step in protecting the bottom line.
This is the crucial part. Same reason many brands have shifted from giving discounts to “rebates”. You have to jump through a few hoops yourself to get it, it’s not automatic. And that immediately results in a decent % of customers simply not even bothering, which is exactly what manufacturers are banking on.
I worked retail almost 20 years ago and that was the last time I saw a rebate. I haven’t had to mail in or apply for a rebate in ages.
Menard’s has a perpetual 11% rebate program. It’s super obnoxious having to mail it in
Yes &
For every person like you
There’s at least 1/10 of a person doing their best to commit fraud. Maybe they’ll pretend they found a hair in their food, maybe worse:
Source of that is a terrible rap song, Punchmade Dev - Wire Fraud Tutorial
These are the kind of criminals support agents deal with all day long. Then you and I come along and nobody trusts us.
Well whatever is after Veo 3 should make all our lives easier. Hey we can always face-to-face barter whatever we whittle!
Best Buy is the worst about this stuff! I’m still bitter bc a few years back they delivered a brand new washing machine that didn’t work. I asked them to come back and pick it up to exchange it for something else and their pick up crew didn’t record that they took the machine back. Luckily they left me a slip showing they picked it up. But it still took me 9 months of fighting with the store to get a refund and I was accused by the manager of creating a “loss issue.” After they finally refunded me they still charged me a pro-rated amount for having the warranty for 9 months bc they didn’t cancel it the same week they picked up the machine.
What worked for me was to go to a different Best Buy store (bc the manager was a dick) and show them the evidence in person and ask for help to resolve or escalate the issue.
But it still took me 9 months of fighting with the store to get a refund and I was accused by the manager of creating a “loss issue.”
9 months?
I mean, does your country have strong customer protections? I know some countries don’t and you’d have to deal with the merchant. But if your country does have consumer protections, you probably should’ve filed a dispute, because they have to be filed within 60 days in the banks I’ve used, so I would not have waited that long because that’s kinda just gambling on the store playing nice.
I immediately reported it to my bank and disputed the charges. After 60 days they recharged me because they sided with Best Buy stating that I had actually received the machine, and it was now up to the company to provide a refund based on their policy (thanks Chase!)
Chase
Oh my fucking god. That’s my bank right now.
😖 (Am I fucked?)
Chase is an awful bank so be ready to fight them too. I am still upset about the money they siphoned from my account after taking over a regional bank here. I would change banks when you are able to. I wish you good fortunes.
Not sure if this works anymore, but worth a try. Get on the phone with the 1-800 during business hours and escalate, ask for consumer relations. Make sure you tell each person that you talk to that you’ll never be shopping at best buy again if this isn’t resolved, so they know you’re serious and will properly escalate you. 15 years ago, that would solve any problem. People who absolutely scammed Best Buy would still get replacements plus a gift card for their trouble, at least once.
Sorry this happened to you. Don’t just assume the chargeback is going to solve things without any more effort, the machines involved might fuck you over if you don’t take steps. Credit card might side with vendor if you don’t submit evidence better than theirs. Your case seems cut and dry since it wasn’t even the right address, but you might still need to get that police report filled. Like the other poster said, you’re just getting the case#, as frustrating as it is, expecting anything else would just be silly. All of these things show you are serious and not a scammer. Scammers wouldn’t try this shit because it would put them in jail the second or third time they did it without any evidence. You have evidence, but the machine is tuned to ignore it until escalation. Fucking lame, I know.
