So I’ve been trying to install the proprietary Nvidia drivers on my homelab so I can get my fine ass art generated using Automatic1111 & Stable diffusion. I installed the Nvidia 510 server drivers, everything seems fine, then when I reboot, nothing. WTF Nvidia, why you gotta break X? Why is x even needed on a server driver. What’s your problem Nvidia!
Nvidia doesn’t hate linux, it just don’t care and the linux community hates nvidia
nvidia has always been hostile to open source, as far back as i can remember.
back when nvidia bought 3dfx they took down the source code for the open 3dfx drivers within days, if not on the same day. i remember because i had just gotten myself a sweet voodoo 5 some weeks before that, and the great linux support was the reason i chose it… of course the driver code survived elsewhere, but it told me all i needed to know about that company.
also: linus’ rant wasn’t just a fun stunt, it was necessary to get nvidia to properly cooperate with the open source community if they want to keep making money running linux on their hardware.
Takes about 8 hrs to setup properly. But once you do set your Nvidia card with Linux, you just never update your OS and cry to sleep every night.
It took a little tweaking but I have Iray and Dforce working for Daz3D under Wine, and FFXIV runs great with it as well. Also got Stable Diffusion running last night without any issues.
All the issues I’ve had have been requiring extra packages or installing some random github nvlibs, and kernel parameters. So as a user, the fact that my nvidia card didn’t work painlessly out of the box without additional configs doesn’t seem like an Nvidia problem…
Yikes… I hoped that Daz3D would just work fine with Iray for my next nvidia card. Add to this that I was planning to switch to Vanilla OS because I don’t want to hack my system or accidentally bork it 😑.
This is my life now.
Companies love to use open source software to reduce their development costs. They hate to contribute back.
Switched to high powered AMD GPUs years ago… No regrets. Awesome graphics, better support, and a better price point usually.
I did have many regrets. Mainly overheating and the card eventually failing on me. Funny how these large companies ship their shit to “third world countries” so that people have a lower chance of returning their POS
But not the fancy machine learning acceleration
Nvidia does not ‘hate’ Linux, Nvidia simply never thinks about Linux. They need to keep secrets so people can’t buy the cheap card and with a little programming turn it into the expensive card.
I want to turn my cheap card into an expensive card with little programming
This. I bet the experience is better if you use it on an enterprise distro they have precompiled drivers for.
With the boom in AI their focus is increasingly on the data center market, so it’s a small miracle (thanks Red Hat and others prodding them) they even have an open driver right now for newer cards (tellingly it’s in a better state for computational use than for rendering pixels on the screen)
Are we just going to post this meme forever and ever here?
Even when we all perish, this meme will remain.
You could just as yourself: has anything changed or is the situation still the same?
Yes. Whenever it’s fitting to say “fuck Nvidia!” So likely forever and ever and always.
This meme will never die unless Intel and AMD surpasses NVIDIA on everything
b-but muh free karmuh
I’m on the cusp off jumping to Arch. Before I do I’m replacing my rtx 3080 with an RX 6800 XT. They are close enough in performance and identical pricing on eBay.
I’ve done a bunch of testing and found great support for all my hardware except my Razer Ripsaw HDMI capture device, which I can replace with something supported. It is just the Nvidia bullshit holding me back.
I’ve seen this photo a bunch of times. Who is this guy? And why is high flipping the bird?
Linus Torvalds, creator of the linux kernel, flips the bird to nvidia and they deserve it
It’s the creator of the linux kernel. In the video he quote says “fuck you nvidia” lol
Other people have already told you who Linus is but if you want some context for the image it was from a Q&A: https://youtu.be/dmfDaxYhi9I?t=2864
Go to 47:46 if the link starts you at the beginning of the video (he starts to do the hand gesture at 49:28).
Some nerd with an attitude problem and a severe lack of social graces.
They love to publish drivers that worked with like 1 release of X 5 years ago when the card came out and never update them.
Except when they update them and it breaks X.
535 drivers have been working fine for me in Ubuntu and Manjaro.
Linux is their bread and butter when it comes to servers and machine learning, but that’s a specialized environment and they don’t really care about general desktop use on arbitrary distros. They care about big businesses with big support contracts. Nobody’s running Wayland on their supercomputer clusters.
I cannot wait until architecture-agnostic ML libraries are dominant and I can kiss CUDA goodbye for good. I swear, 90% of my tech problems over the past 5 years have boiled down to “Nvidia sucks”. I’ve changed distros three times hoping it would make things easier, and it never really does; it just creates exciting new problems to play whack-a-mole with. I currently have Ubuntu LTS working, and I’m hoping I never need to breathe on it again.
That said, there’s honestly some grass-is-greener syndrome going on here, because you know what sucks almost as much as using Nvidia on Linux? Using Nvidia on Windows.
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It’s not that they hate it, they just don’t care at all.
Also, you should use your distro’s prepackaged driver - not the Nvidia installer.
