• CableMonster@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    Outside of passing a bill with billions of military aid for proxy wars in foreign countries, it was still a shitty bill. I am fine with using the system correctly, but why not stop the bleeding first and actually prosecute the law?

    Are you aware of what it even did? It literally just codified that 5000 people per day can illegally enter the country by any means, and then after that they have to go through the port of entry, and if I am remembering correctly it doesnt even start taking place till the end of the year. And then it made it so that all the court hearings adjudicating it had to take place in DC. No person should have accepted that bill even if it didnt shove military aid to kill people around the world.

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      9 months ago

      It is irrational but consistent that conservatives took getting what they wished for as a terrifying cautionary example of…getting what they wished for.

      Border security is a non-critical earmark that baby-brained conservatives whined for more action on and then cowered from once their plaintive cries were answered.

      Ukraine should get as much aid as they want. Any other conclusion is nuts. Or selfish. Or cowardly. Or short-sighted.

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        9 months ago

        I dont think you read my comment…

        And the Ukraine war is over, they lost, you wanting more aid is just encouraging more death of ukrainians.

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            9 months ago

            413,000 Russian troops lost so far to Ukraine’s 31,000.

            Hold up, do you actually believe this?

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                9 months ago

                I am not being tricked, I dont believe those numbers, I have no idea what the numbers are.

                So you do actually believe those numbers?

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                  9 months ago

                  I believe those or similar numbers provided by every country analyzing casualties in this war, including Russia.

                  You don’t. Why?

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                    9 months ago

                    Because they are obviously propaganda. If you believe “the bad guys” have lost 13x more men than “the good guys” then I dont really know what to tell you. I have one stat that will help you realize you are being lied to; Ukraines militaries median age is up 10 years to 43 years old in the past two years or so. [Cue furious googling to figure out how to dismiss this data as normal]