• PerfectedInterest@lemmy.world
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    The title is a little misleading. This ruling is only regarding the preliminary injunction. There is still an ongoing suit with the FTC and we will need to wait for that to be resolved. However, knowing how these things go, Microsoft will make a ton of promises about creating jobs, keeping their content available to everyone, and agreeing to play fair. They will get approval and immediately turn around and terminate a ton of jobs, start making things exclusive, and backtrack on their promises. Then…nothing will happen. There will be no repercussions. Rinse and repeat.

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      It’s my understanding that Microsoft can now close the deal and acquire ABK before the FTC trial would even take place (as soon as July 18th, though unlikely given the new UK CMA negotiations). What happens to the suit if the merger is already complete?

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        Probably a fine that’s simply justified as “operating costs”. It’s actually kinda bullshit, they shouldn’t be allowed to buy up all the NA competition. Next is probably EA. Thankfully Sony saw this coming and started investing in new studios and IP.

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          How does one bring Teddy Roosevelt back from the grave? I’m uh…asking for a friend? Yeah. Let’s go with that.

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          I’d be pretty surprised if MS is allowed to purchase another huge publisher. Zenimax was pretty small, but ABK is huge. But who knows at this point…

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    Capital wins again. If only the FTC didn’t sit on its ass for the last 40 years, maybe such market consolidation wouldn’t be allowed and normalized.

    Also shout-out to this comm. The Beehaw community seems delighted. You can sometimes really tell which instances skew toward leftists vs liberals

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      The fact that it was challenged at all is a huge step in the right direction. Couple of years ago, the FTC wouldn’t even bat an eye with these mergers. The new chair, Lina Khan seems to be determined to reduce the power of monopolies.

      Which is a good thing, if this isn’t obvious.

      The problem lies with the complete out of touch judges now.

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        Oh no, those judged seem touched. Maybe the need another sponsored yaht trip to clear their heads.

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      If only the FTC didn’t sit on its ass for the last 40 years

      That’s more on the money than you think. Microsoft mostly won because the FTC didn’t clamp down on Sony being anticompetitive which “forced” Microsoft to make these acquisitions. This situation is bad, but the alternative with Sony exclusivity deals all over the place was worse.

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        No I think this is worse. It’s not a deal. These are all first party studios now essentially, through nothing but the purchasing power of a trillion dollar company. They will and can be as locked as Microsoft prefers.

        There were 360 deals before PS4/PS5 deals. There were Xbox One deals even during Sony dominance, like Tomb Raider. Sony is just one player, but the others are not angels.

        Nothing here stops those deals from continuing.

        What has happened is that the second or third largest third party publisher’s studios and “IP” now belong to a first party publisher.

        And I predict more acquisitions, and thus consolidation, will come from Sony.

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    You can “rah rah” about exclusivity all day long. What needs to be acknowledged is how huge this is in terms of developers under one company. As far as I can think of, there’s never been anything like it. I don’t think it’s gonna be for the better, I mean this is the same.company responsible for this

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      GFWL was one of the worst attempts to compete with Steam I’ve ever seen, and also one of the worst software experiences I’ve ever had. I never got more than an hour into GTA4 because of it and how intolerant of bullshit software I am. Valve should have put their feet down back then and said “no secondary launcher dependencies”.

      Game pass is OK in terms of value if you play lots of games, but the software it uses is not great, despite being leagues better than GFWL. Windows also sucks, but I’m stuck with it due to work :/

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    I might be a little more upset if I could remember the last activision blizzard game I felt was worth playing.

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    Seems like a foregone conclusion now that this will go through. Unless I’m mistaken, the only speed bump left is the UK CMA appeal in two weeks.

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      The worst bit is, it seems like the CMA will negotiate with them. This might be well and truly over.

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        I’ll be shocked if it doesn’t go through. I stand to benefit from the acquisition as a GP subscriber but I’m definitely worried about corporate consolidation. At least Bobby Kotick will go away

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          This is one of the few corporate mergers I think could make things better because Blizzard is just THAT bad.

          Plus this means the SC themed Halo clone I’ve wanted for the better part of 2 decades could be a thing.

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            Yeah I think I agree with you on the merger, but I’m of the wait and see mindset more than picking a side.

            Still waiting on SC Ghost? I remember buying game magazines and being so hyped for it to come out.

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              Yeah, I’m a tiny bit optimistic, but only time will tell how this ends up going. Also Activision really is such a fucked up state right now, that if they end up making it even worse, so what? I really only see two options: eather it will be better or continue be shit like they now are.

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            Plus this means the SC themed Halo clone I’ve wanted for the better part of 2 decades could be a thing.

            Dear god I will lose my shit.

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      The CMA appeal is covered in the article. Both parties have requested to delay the appeal so they can negotiate modifying the merger to address CMA concerns about cloud gaming. It’s going through.

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    It went through because the judge thought that the only relevant thing was where CoD would be, and that 10yrs = forever. Neither is true though.

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    I’m all for this merger. Maybe Microsoft can use it as leverage against Sony to avoid needless exclusivity

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        Microsoft gaming strategy does benefit gamers. Which counteracts the problem of losing a competitor.

        Microsoft doesnt care about profits on single products much compared to the grand strategy they follow. For example AoE4 and all the aoe franchise doesnt really give a lot of profit Microsoft would care about, yet they keep investing and updating it bc they like it and like the strategic benefit.

        Not caring as strictly about profit means you dont get as many greedy microtransactions and more balanced approaches. The game pass is also a really cheap deal if you play variety

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          No subscription deal is ever a good financial decision long term and companies know that. Most people keep their subscriptions running and will end up paying more long term.

          That’s not even getting into the “ownership” vs renting aspect.

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            Netflix used to be cheap and look where we are now. Give it a few years and Game pass will suffer the same fate.

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              They already have cut benefits and raised prices. I expect more price raises in the coming years

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              They went up from $15 to $17 or so; the small single digit shift does kind of make me think they’ve eyed the big “2-0” as the price point where a lot of people might reconsider.

              I’m certainly considering the benefit of it each month, and so far I’ve consciously decided to keep it. If it’s ever poor value like Netflix, it’s going (that said, Netflix has introduced enough shows that I have weighed whether to resubscribe)

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                  Oh, I guess I was referring to Ultimate. I don’t think regular one-system pricing has gone up yet, it’s still $10. I’m just going for Ultimate for other perks.

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              Grandmas, young people. Most people are notoriously far from financially savvy. Many overpay or fail to track their subscriptions.. If you didn’t know at least one person paying for a subscription they didn’t actually use in the last month I would be surprised.

              You have to keep up with your gaming habits long term to keep up with the subscription costs, basically never replay anything (especially not long RPGs that can take you months to finish), not waste subscription time playing non-GamePass games, or remember to cancel. And Microsoft, like most subscription services, are banking on people maintaining subscriptions they aren’t fully using.

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        My other stance is that Activision is so shitty to its workers and customers, let’s give someone else a try

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        Why? Microsoft hasnt been pushing for it like Sony has. Sony has been crazy anti competitive.

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            Well yeah, that’s the point. Maybe Sony will stop forcing exclusivity and sign a deal with MS to get Bethesda games back on PS and FF and others on Xbox.

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              That would be fantastic, but it’s really hard for me to have that much faith in corporations. We’ll see though. I was really looking forward to seeing Bethesda make another RPG for PSVR, but I’m sure the odds of that happening now are less than zero thanks to Microsoft.

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      I would love to hear how this could possibly make exclusivity better. The only possible change is that all of the ABK library becomes Xbox/PC exclusive.

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      If Microsoft could stop pushing for needless expense exclusivety you would have a stronger point. DX needs to die so gaming can move on, for example.