A long form response to the concerns and comments and general principles many people had in the post about authors suing companies creating LLMs.

  • Gumby@beehaw.org
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    1 year ago

    I think this has to do with intent. If I read a book to use it for the basis of a play, that would be illegal. If I read for enjoyment, that is legal. Since AI does not read for enjoyment, but only to use it for the basis of creating something else, that would be illegal.

    Is my logic flawed?

    • Umbrias@beehaw.org
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      1 year ago

      This isn’t how it works at all. I can, and should, and do, read and consume all sorts of media with the intention of stealing from it for my own works. If you ask for writing advice, this is actually probably one of the first things you’ll hear: read how other people do it.

      So this does not work as an argument, “the intent of the reading” because if so humans could never generate any new media either.

    • whelmer@beehaw.org
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      1 year ago

      Your logic is flawed in that derivative works are not a violation of copyright. Generally, copyright protects a text or piece of art from being reproduced. Specific characters and settings can be protected by copyright, concepts and themes cannot. People take inspiration from the work of others all the time. Lots of TV shows or whatever are heavily informed by previous works, and that’s totally fine.

      Copyright protects the reproduction of other peoples work, and the reuse of their specific characters. It doesn’t protect style, themes, concepts, etc. IE. the things that an AI is trying to derive. So like if you trained your LLM only on Tolkien such that it always told stories about Gandalf and the hobbits, then that would be a problem.

    • Mutoid@beehaw.org
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      1 year ago

      “Reading with intent?” that sounds ridiculous. The only thing of concern is the work produced.

      • oomphaloompha@beehaw.org
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        1 year ago

        Open up! It’s the thought-police! We have reason to believe you are reading with intent to commit a criminal act! You are under arrest! Anything you say or think can and will be used against you in the court of law!