Turkey leader Erdogan will back Sweden joining Nato - Stoltenberg
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Turkey's President Erdogan agrees to support Sweden's bid to join Nato, the alliance's chief Jens Stoltenberg says
  • CMDR_Horn@lemmy.ml
    35·
    1 year ago

    I wonder what had deal had to be made for him to say this. Also grain of salt till ink is dry.

      • Fisting for Freedom@sh.itjust.works
        5·
        1 year ago

        They’ve had F-16s for years, producing most of them domestically (under license). Maybe some upgrades?

        Turkey’s been developing their own “5th gen” fighter, and they do have a pretty decent domestic military industrial base, but they got barred from purchasing the F-35 in 2019 when they bought an S-400 system from Russia - I wonder if he wants those. It’d need some US congressional cooperation to make happen, though.

  • FiskFisk33@lemmy.world
    22·
    1 year ago

    As a swede I am on the fence on wether Sweden should join NATO in the first place, but at least we’re not out for the stupidest fucking reason anymore.

      • blueson@feddit.nu
        1·
        1 year ago

        I think most people who have switched sides, who were originally for/split, would today argue that it’s unlikely that Russia would stage another war in the coming years. Looking at how poorly they are performing in Ukraine.

        So getting into NATO with the possibility that Erdogan’s demands will have an actual effect on the Swedish laws has not been deemed worth it right now.

        I also doubt anybody reasonable would consider some of his demands to be achievable, Turkey in EU today?

  • 1bluepixel@lemmy.ml
    10·
    1 year ago

    It sounds like Erdogan is saying this is conditional on the EU reopening talks about Turkiye joining. Is that even happening?

  • Max_Power@feddit.deEnglish
    147·
    1 year ago

    Fucking finally

    I want to see Putins stupid face now, it must be glorious to watch

  • Hexadecimalkink@lemmy.ml
    72·
    1 year ago

    This isn’t happening it’s just grandstanding before the summit. Sweden said they’ll put in a good word for Turkey to join the EU, Erdogan said he’ll put in a good word to Turkish parliament. After the conference someone will do something trivial and they’ll fake outrage and go back to Sweden not joining.

  • masquenox@lemmy.ml
    33·
    1 year ago

    I don’t care what someone thinks or feels about the Russo-Ukraine war - NATO expanding is absolutely not a good thing.

    • MammyWhammy@lemmy.ml
      61·
      1 year ago

      Why not?

      I’m not saying Ukraine should/shouldn’t be in NATO, but if Ukraine was in NATO would Russia have invaded?

      Don’t larger military alliance disincentivize violent conflict?

      I understand if a conflict were to break out it would be much larger, but we can’t know the extent of the smaller conflicts that have not happened due to the existence of NATO.

      • masquenox@lemmy.ml
        21·
        1 year ago

        Don’t larger military alliance disincentivize violent conflict?

        Not necessarily - and NATO sure doesn’t seem to mind when their own members wage genocidal wars on the third world (like Turkey is doing with it’s ISIS-staffed proxy-militias in northern Syria).

        NATO has shown that it will happily play midwife to US neocolonialism - remember that time the US invaded Afghanistan using an even flimsier pretext than the ones Putin uses? At this point, we should be thankful that the US didn’t allow Russia itself to join NATO (something Putin is still pretty sore about)… but the US sure didn’t do it out of the goodness of their hearts.

  • itchy_lizard@feddit.it
    0·
    1 year ago

    Turkey had previously spent months blocking Sweden’s application, accusing it of hosting Kurdish militants.

    Man, fuck Turkey